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If there was such a thing as a coyote elimination department there would be more coyotes than ever and they’d be everywhere.
Someone just tried to assassinate Trump
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jeeeep
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boo hood hoo you crying sack of shit.
Get out of here with that "all my people" bullshit.
All my people came here legally, paid their dues, learned English and abandoned all the other shit because they embraced American citizenship.
Mike Pierson
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Totally. Stupid celebrities crying about this shit can fuck off.
bobfriesenhahn
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But they do know how to create one!
sm31
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That's the difference.
I'm a huge proponent of WFH. I've been doing so for years, along with my team spread from coast to coast that would never be able to come together otherwise. We work hard, and we produce better and more efficiently than we ever could in a cube farm.
Working remotely is not the problem, and is pretty fantastic under the right circumstances. The actual issue: F*ckers taking advantage of WFH so they can be lazy and screw over their employers, whether it's government or private sector.
And of course the fat cat billionaires on the news don't like it... Most of them are hip deep in ugly corporate real estate investments.
Mike Pierson
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Remote is great, I did it for nearly 20 years. When held accountable in a private sector job productivity is good… not so much in public sector where the pace is significantly slower and more lenient.
jeeeep
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I'm curious how many of these WFH employees have other jobs they've taken out of the state they are supposedly living in, while they collect their seemingly no-requirement WFH paychecks.
NPC 6060⁸42
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I’m talking specifically of government “workers” it doesn’t matter where they are. They aren’t actually working. I’m in a WFH role that was hybrid before the coof sent everyone to full time WFH. We are getting as much or more done as we did before. Our in office days were usually spent shooting the shit. Taking extended lunch breaks ETC. Though TBH I do miss getting together in the office at least once in a while we had a lot of laughs it’s just not the same on Teams.
Aceisback
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Camaraderie and Esprit de Corps do go a long way towards making 10 hour days out in 120* temps seem to go by much faster, and definitely much more tolerable. I miss everything about it except for the +100* and below 40* days spent outdoors.
cosmokenney
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... when you can get Teams to actually work! Am I right?
GP NOIR
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My brother is a civil servant working for the Army on the administrative side of the house, keeping helicopters mission ready. He works hard whether it’s in the office or from home. He’s been deployed overseas to the Sandbox many times, six to eighteen months at a time. He earns every penny of his paycheck.
NPC 6060⁸42
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Contractor or govt? Either way I know I’ve been painting with a pretty broad brush about govt employees. Of course there are quite a few that do fantastic jobs but it’s the unfortunate reality that the vast majority are fairly worthless. My best friend grew up in the DC area and has witnessed this his whole life and even wrote a book about how dysfunctional it is inside the beltway.
AZVAJKU
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When it comes to Fed-Gov workers you have GS employees and contractors.
The contractors are divided into ‘Industrial’ meaning you work for a company holding a Fed-Gov contract such as Booz Allen. There are also ‘Independent Contractors’ who have a direct contract with the part of the Fed-Gov they are supporting.
With contractors there are various factors effecting work locations and amounts of time worked. Those details are driven by your specific contract and your Contracting Officer (COTR). I have seen Fed-Gov contractors work a 4-hour day and a 18-hour day. I have also seen them work 7 days a week for 120 straight days. Obviously if you’re making $800 a day the 4 hour day for 5 days a week is preferable.
When it comes to GS workers you are actually paid by the hour and are required to work 80-hours per pay period. Additionally your pay scale is effect by location. The hourly wage in the Washington Metro Area is more than some other areas. There is also a requirement to live within a certain distance of your home office. I believe it’s 50 miles. If you are at 52 miles nobody is going to care. If your office is in WMA and you live in freaking Kansas you’re technically defrauding the Gov.
WMA pay scale.
Not WMA pay scale.
If you look at a GS-13 step 8 on each chart you will notice a substantial difference.
The contractors are divided into ‘Industrial’ meaning you work for a company holding a Fed-Gov contract such as Booz Allen. There are also ‘Independent Contractors’ who have a direct contract with the part of the Fed-Gov they are supporting.
With contractors there are various factors effecting work locations and amounts of time worked. Those details are driven by your specific contract and your Contracting Officer (COTR). I have seen Fed-Gov contractors work a 4-hour day and a 18-hour day. I have also seen them work 7 days a week for 120 straight days. Obviously if you’re making $800 a day the 4 hour day for 5 days a week is preferable.
When it comes to GS workers you are actually paid by the hour and are required to work 80-hours per pay period. Additionally your pay scale is effect by location. The hourly wage in the Washington Metro Area is more than some other areas. There is also a requirement to live within a certain distance of your home office. I believe it’s 50 miles. If you are at 52 miles nobody is going to care. If your office is in WMA and you live in freaking Kansas you’re technically defrauding the Gov.
WMA pay scale.
Not WMA pay scale.
If you look at a GS-13 step 8 on each chart you will notice a substantial difference.
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bobfriesenhahn
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The primary job requirement for working in the office is to show up. When working from home, the primary requirement is to attend the mandatory 2 hour Teams meeting in order to hear management talk about how great things will be.