Upgrade Brake Kits? Leaning toward ProGrip....Suggestions?

cozdude

cozdude

Guy with a Red 2-Door
It's been said countless times already but the progrips are amazing and totally worth it. Wouldn't trade mine in for anything else
 
notnalc68

notnalc68

That dude from Mississippi
Ddays said:
All you need to know is on this video. Oh, and Dynatrac stands behind their warranty. Period.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKl1P2L2K00

edit: I also have this kit and it's outstanding.
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Notice how level, Rubicat stays during braking. The larger rear rotors, do a nice job of keeping the Jeep from going nose down, during hard braking. I have Progrips, with metric 35's, and he'll really stop, now. There is no spongy feeling in the pedal, like a member here, recently reported with the Teraflex kit.


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Destroyer

Destroyer

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jeeeep said:
I can tell you from experience the TF do not fit all 17" wheels either. Some wheels have a thicker inner profile from the center of the wheel to the hub (I have a set that do that - found out after I had swapped out all the brakes to Dynatrac :doh:)

IMO TF are more labor intensive. while it's relatively easy to remove the caliper, getting a proper bleed is a pain in the ass. Jeep also used different master cylinders over the years, if you it turns out you don't have the proper master cylinder for the big bore TF calipers, you're stuck dishing out another $210. When you stop, the fronts are doing all the work. they will stop you quicker but when loaded down you will notice the difference from front to rear so you'll likely end up buying their rear big brake kit. it's a larger rotor with brackets similar to ProGrips - total you're in about $1400 - not sure if the front brake pads are factory style #'s

I ran the PowerStop Drilled/slotted and they were a big improvement over stock with my 35's - hauling a trailer and stopping became less of an adventure!
once I put the 37's on with beadlocks, stopping became an adventure again not as bad on the flat but on steep declines on the trial they tended to fade fast. Seat pucker was an understatement.

The Dynatrac ProGrip are easy to install and no bleeding required unless you're also extending your brake lines. The pads they come with do put out a lot of dust but I've found the Wagner OEx to provide the same excellent stopping power with very little brake dust - jeep factory replacement size pads makes it easy.

I can tell you the stopping power of all braking corners being equal stops fast and flat. I can drive my 2015 stock jeep and then get in my 2010 37's, and heavy and I don't change need to change my braking style.

best part for me, if my daughter is driving my Jeep I don't worry about having to warn her how far in advance she needs to start braking. she can drive it the same manner as the 2015 with no worries.

My jeep is heavy and when I'm on a trip with tools and all the crap I carry the ProGrips are great.

A friend of mine recently swapped out his TF kit after he drove my Jeep, he was on the fence on buying the master cylinder/rear kit but went ProGrips instead.
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Jeeeep

Thanks for your input! This is exactly what I was looking for. I appreciate the time you spent in writing your review/comments, and you've definitely convinced me that Dynatrac is the way to go. I've recently upgraded to 37s with beadlocks, and I was hoping to put in a new big brake kit prior to the tire install. My jeep isn't heavy to be honest, however I think I'll choose safety over break dust caking.

I also want to minimize any surprises as you suggested with the TF setup....I could see how you'd fork out more money in the end.

Again, thank you to all that have posted! The forum links were a great help as well.

Buying the ProGrips today! Just need to figure out from whom.

Cheers,



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DWiggles

DWiggles

Caught the Bug
Just throwing this out there,

Slabs will have no issues with either thanks to the 3.5 BS of the wheel. So you should be golden fitment wise. That being said... The progrips are bad ass. I'm running slabs, fitment is fine... and It took about a week to stop throwing cargo around the jeep under braking after driving with 37s and stock brakes for so long. The only thing I changed in the braking department was the progrips... they made THAT much of a difference... :thumb:

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Destroyer

Destroyer

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DWiggles said:
Just throwing this out there,

Slabs will have no issues with either thanks to the 3.5 BS of the wheel. So you should be golden fitment wise. That being said... The progrips are bad ass. I'm running slabs, fitment is fine... and It took about a week to stop throwing cargo around the jeep under braking after driving with 37s and stock brakes for so long. The only thing I changed in the braking department was the progrips... they made THAT much of a difference... :thumb:

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Thanks for the pictures Dwiggles and the fitment confirmation.

Just wondering if your ATX Slabs came with a Centre Cap???

I can't recall if mine are coming with some in the package I bought....

And if they usually don't...what's the centre cap size and where's a good place to buy some?

Thank You!


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fiend

fiend

Caught the Bug
notnalc68 said:
Notice how level, Rubicat stays during braking. The larger rear rotors, do a nice job of keeping the Jeep from going nose down, during hard braking. I have Progrips, with metric 35's, and he'll really stop, now. There is no spongy feeling in the pedal, like a member here, recently reported with the Teraflex kit.


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The original TF kit was just for the front. Larger rotors and a 4 pot caliper. That could lead to some front dive and also might feel spongy if used with the original JK master cylinder. At some point Jeep changed the master cylinder to a larger size, so the second issue went away. The nose dive wasn't really a problem; I had the front only kit for a couple of years and the better braking over stock was nice, particularly with 37s and a heavier than stock Jeep. Later, TF added a rear kit that has larger rotors but re-uses the stock calipers, now spaced further out with brackets. That's the same approach as Dynatrac. I added that and now have front and rear kits. The Jeep stays more level and with less brake dive. I think TF recently may also have added a similar front kit; i.e., stock caliper spaced with brackets. If so, you could go TF without dealing with a larger master cylinder, changing calipers, or bleeding the system. So that's another option. I don't know what the price is for that, but it's probably comparable to the Dynatrac set up, + or - $100. I gather Dynatrac is made in the US whereas TF is not, so that's another detail that may be important.


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notnalc68

notnalc68

That dude from Mississippi
fiend said:
The original TF kit was just for the front. Larger rotors and a 4 pot caliper. That could lead to some front dive and also might feel spongy if used with the original JK master cylinder. At some point Jeep changed the master cylinder to a larger size, so the second issue went away. The nose dive wasn't really a problem; I had the front only kit for a couple of years and the better braking over stock was nice, particularly with 37s and a heavier than stock Jeep. Later, TF added a rear kit that has larger rotors but re-uses the stock calipers, now spaced further out with brackets. That's the same approach as Dynatrac. I added that and now have front and rear kits. The Jeep stays more level and with less brake dive. I think TF recently may also have added a similar front kit; i.e., stock caliper spaced with brackets. If so, you could go TF without dealing with a larger master cylinder, changing calipers, or bleeding the system. So that's another option. I don't know what the price is for that, but it's probably comparable to the Dynatrac set up, + or - $100. I gather Dynatrac is made in the US whereas TF is not, so that's another detail that may be important.


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If warranty were to come into play, I think I'd want Dynatrac.


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DWiggles

DWiggles

Caught the Bug
Destroyer said:
Thanks for the pictures Dwiggles and the fitment confirmation.

Just wondering if your ATX Slabs came with a Centre Cap???

I can't recall if mine are coming with some in the package I bought....

And if they usually don't...what's the centre cap size and where's a good place to buy some?

Thank You!


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Came with them. I picked mine up on a buy 4 get 1 free promotion from a vendor who no longer supports the forum almost 2 years ago. I'm pretty sure they still come with the center caps though... Slabs specifically anyway, I know the chamber Pros do NOT come with center caps
 
Destroyer

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JK_Dave said:
I have Slabs and Progrips with 37" Nitto TG's. Would do Progrips again in a heartbeat.
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Thank You Sir!

Pulled the trigger this morning on ProGrips!!!!

1-1/2 week wait though....looks like my tires are going to arrive earlier than the brakes.

Should be a good combo...

37" x 13.5" x 17" STT Pros, ATX-Slabs, Dyna ProGrips. Recently installed TF HD Adjustable Ball joints.




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notnalc68

notnalc68

That dude from Mississippi
Destroyer said:
Thank You Sir!

Pulled the trigger this morning on ProGrips!!!!

1-1/2 week wait though....looks like my tires are going to arrive earlier than the brakes.

Should be a good combo...

37" x 13.5" x 17" STT Pros, ATX-Slabs, Dyna ProGrips. Recently installed TF HD Adjustable Ball joints.




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Yeah. Had to wait on mine, a little. They told me they had a lot of demand to keep up with. Well worth a little wait.


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RazerX

RazerX

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Very impressed with the quality of these rotors

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Kimochou

Kimochou

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Has anyone run AEV Saltas with the Pro Grips? I was hoping the template would be a final check before install instead of making this project a two off days affair. The bs is .6” over their posted maximum and the guy I spoke to at Dynatrac thought it would be no problem but naturally recommend the template. Excellent service there btw. I called at 8am on my commute to work and the guy who answered the phone had answers to all my questions without having to “check”. Definitely not a call center.


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