New Poison Spyder Tire Carrier

hinrichs

Caught the Bug
Just read some of the comments in their Facebook thread. Dusty says this isn't the best setup for a hard core rock crawler. Without taking the comment out of context, could the same be said for the genright carrier? Does the way the evo carrier mounts to the skins make it leaps and bounds more durable and less likely to cause tub damage in the event of a rear tire hitting a rock on a drop off? (spreading the load across a much greater surface area)

If so, this narrows my choice down to one carrier and it won't be the genright or ps.

I'm still relatively new to playing in the rocks, anyone have any thoughts on this? I'm a few months away from doing a tire carrier upgrade but I plan my mods well in advance. Any input would be appreciated.

I backed into a rock hard with my carrier and only slightly dented it, no other damage. I do plan on eventually making mounts on the latch side tho directly onto the skins. Part that makes me mad is the part I want to buy from genright to make my life easier, they wont sell to me.
 

KingCopperhead

New member
I backed into a rock hard with my carrier and only slightly dented it, no other damage. I do plan on eventually making mounts on the latch side tho directly onto the skins. Part that makes me mad is the part I want to buy from genright to make my life easier, they wont sell to me.

That's messed up. It's not like you're trying to use their parts on someone else's carrier.

Ever run the gauntlet in the comp course? The big ledge when running it from the main building facing out, that second rock formation where if you don't drop off just right, you're going to do major damage. Spots like that make me leery of a body mounted tire carrier holding up. Part of it is just picking a good line and taking your time but sometimes the unforeseeable happens. I'd like to not smash out my rear window or bend the tub.

Glad to hear the genright has held up for you though. I have time to weigh all of my options out. Keep going back and forth on whether or not I want to run skins at all. I know you've had the same internal debate.
 

hinrichs

Caught the Bug
That's messed up. It's not like you're trying to use their parts on someone else's carrier.

Ever run the gauntlet in the comp course? The big ledge when running it from the main building facing out, that second rock formation where if you don't drop off just right, you're going to do major damage. Spots like that make me leery of a body mounted tire carrier holding up. Part of it is just picking a good line and taking your time but sometimes the unforeseeable happens. I'd like to not smash out my rear window or bend the tub.

Glad to hear the genright has held up for you though. I have time to weigh all of my options out. Keep going back and forth on whether or not I want to run skins at all. I know you've had the same internal debate.

Sad part is its just the side brackets for a tj since they are split and not one plate which would make my life easier, guess ill just take some time soon and make my own plate. I think in the email they said something like "Its cool you want to make something a little more custom". Its like well I wanna spend money, but you wont let me lol. I feel in a way its dumb they don't at least offer just a steel side plate which would solve my problem.
 

sjd78

New member
Do all of the EVO carriers drop like that when open? I'm not sure my wife could lift it the 3"-4" to pin it back in.
 

jmatta33

New member
Do all of the EVO carriers drop like that when open? I'm not sure my wife could lift it the 3"-4" to pin it back in.

I dont have one, but by looking at the pictures, I think its safe to say that she wouldnt need to lift the entire weight of the tire. In fact I would venture to guess you would only be lifting a small percentage of the weight as the carrier and bracket act as a fulcrum. Im sure someone has one can chime in and verify though.
 

dannymalkin

New member
I dont have one, but by looking at the pictures, I think its safe to say that she wouldnt need to lift the entire weight of the tire. In fact I would venture to guess you would only be lifting a small percentage of the weight as the carrier and bracket act as a fulcrum. Im sure someone has one can chime in and verify though.

Even with what overlander jk said, jmatta33 has a good point. The distance between the passenger hinge and the driver side brackets will most definitely act as a fulcrum reducing the amount of work needed to close it or slightly lift it. Doesn't really answer your question but is neat to think about.
 

Sharkey

Word Ninja
Do all of the EVO carriers drop like that when open? I'm not sure my wife could lift it the 3"-4" to pin it back in.

No. A properly set up EVO carrier does not require that much lift to set the driver's side. It's all about properly setting the preload, and I can assure you that your wife would have no problem closing the carrier with a 37" tire if the install and preload are done correctly.
 

SFNick

New member
Do all of the EVO carriers drop like that when open? I'm not sure my wife could lift it the 3"-4" to pin it back in.


No they don't.

Haha....The EVO tire carrier requires you to lift it & that's the way it's designed. If there is one out there that doesn't please send a pic... It's not made for your wife & she won't like it. But it's still the best carrier out there in my opinion.
 
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OverlanderJK

Resident Smartass
Haha....The EVO tire carrier requires you to lift it & that's the way it's designed. If there is one out there that doesn't please send a pic... It's not made for your wife & she won't like it. But it's still the best carrier out there in my opinion.

I've seen a few. In fact from fully open you can swing it closed and it will slide in. Why would they design something to be fucked up?
 

SFNick

New member
I've seen a few. In fact from fully open you can swing it closed and it will slide in. Why would they design something to be fucked up?

Bullshit.... All false information & I like the design keeps it quiet & the weight distributed. Its not fucked up
 

Rccrwlr

New member
Bullshit.... All false information & I like the design keeps it quiet & the weight distributed. Its not fucked up

Interesting. I agree with Overlander. The ones I've seen slide right into the bracket when closing. That was with a 40" tire and slabs. Maybe someone could post a pic. Sounds like the units you have seen may need a bit of adjustment either that or the others aren't doing it right by making it close easy.
 

SFNick

New member
Interesting. I agree with Overlander. The ones I've seen slide right into the bracket when closing. That was with a 40" tire and slabs. Maybe someone could post a pic. Sounds like the units you have seen may need a bit of adjustment

Well maybe so but I would love to see a pic because there is no way in hell my carrier is adjusting enough to shut without lifting it & even if it could I wouldn't.
 

Rccrwlr

New member
Well maybe so but I would love to see a pic because there is no way in hell my carrier is adjusting enough to shut without lifting it & even if it could I wouldn't.

Ya. I agree. In fact it's a deterrent for my wife to have to unhook things just to get the tailgate open. Will be looking for an integrated tire carrier
 
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