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RubiConnor
05-10-2013, 03:47 PM
I have been planning for many months on how and when to get my new JK and the question I keep asking myself is: Sport, Sahara or Rubicon? I was wondering what the benefit of purchasing a Rubicon is if I am going to tear it down with new suspension, axels, wheels, tires, etc...? I was curious is there is something special about the rubicon that doesn't need aftermarket changes that im not already familiar with, in comparison with the other types. I have always had the idea of just purchasing a low price Sport and beefing it up with what I need and want. If someone could give some advice on this topic or help me out that'd be great!

(I understand the Rubicon comes with better drive train and 4 wheel drive capabilities (and lockers?), but I just have always felt that the rubicon was for the driver that wants to just buy and run. Not Just Empty Every Pocket ;) )

Cheers,

RubiConnor

seanb33
05-10-2013, 04:09 PM
As stated by yourself, the 4:1 transfer case is "better" and the Dana 44 up front helps out with the bigger tires. I wish I had gotten a rubicon but then again, I don't want to replace my axles anytime soon... All depends how much you want to spend

Canvas JK
05-10-2013, 04:11 PM
Do you want power windows and locks? If I had to do over I think going with the sport is how I would go. Sure I can't go directly from the dealership to the Rubicon bit I can put what I want on my JKUS. JMHO

R/
Will

cozdude
05-10-2013, 04:16 PM
Do you want power windows and locks? If I had to do over I think going with the sport is how I would go. Sure I can't go directly from the dealership to the Rubicon bit I can put what I want on my JKUS. JMHO

R/
Will

you can get a rubi without power windows and locks. i priced one out yesterday at my dealer without them.

OP- a rubi will be better to start off with (in my opinion) because of the 4:1 ratio transfer case, the higher gear ratio, and the D44 up front. also the lockers and electronic sway bar disco are good to have as well. The sport is every bit as capable tho. i have a sport and its great. if you plan on replacing the axle right away or shortly after for a ProRock 44 and a higher gear ratio i recommend the sport that way you save some money as it a 10,000$ difference

MTG
05-10-2013, 04:20 PM
If you really are going to replace everything right away then you shouldn't even be asking the question. After replacing the axles and suspension, then really the only thing left would be the transfer case (assuming you don't put the e-lockers in your new axles) and the e-disco exluding the fit and finish interior stuff that you could probably add to a sport or Sahara.

However, if you are going to slowly replace things over time or as they break/wear out than the rubi might be worth it. You get lockers that should last a while (even with bigger tires) and axles that should hold up with 37s (new shafts are a lot cheaper than new axles).

There are plenty of people on here that have a sport, because they were going to do the same, who now wish they had bought a rubi to begin with. I think some have posted recently in the 3 things you wish you knew when you started thread.

You'll probably get many different opinions on the topic. The above is just mine. It will all depend on your budget and plans.

Good luck!

wayoflife
05-10-2013, 04:23 PM
I have been planning for many months on how and when to get my new JK and the question I keep asking myself is: Sport, Sahara or Rubicon? I was wondering what the benefit of purchasing a Rubicon is if I am going to tear it down with new suspension, axels, wheels, tires, etc...? I was curious is there is something special about the rubicon that doesn't need aftermarket changes that im not already familiar with, in comparison with the other types. I have always had the idea of just purchasing a low price Sport and beefing it up with what I need and want. If someone could give some advice on this topic or help me out that'd be great!

(I understand the Rubicon comes with better drive train and 4 wheel drive capabilities (and lockers?), but I just have always felt that the rubicon was for the driver that wants to just buy and run. Not Just Empty Every Pocket ;) )

Cheers,

RubiConnor

I've done it both ways and then when it came time to do it again, I went with a Rubicon again. Why? Because I got more of what I wanted right off the bat - a 4:1 transfer case, a electronic disconnect, MyGig radio, more comfortable seats, axles with locker that work well enough and one that can be sold with ease. Unless you're going to be replacing everything right away, this is the way I would recommend going.

GCM 2
05-10-2013, 04:25 PM
If you really are going to replace everything right away then you shouldn't even be asking the question. After replacing the axles and suspension, then really the only thing left would be the transfer case (assuming you don't put the e-lockers in your new axles) and the e-disco exluding the fit and finish interior stuff that you could probably add to a sport or Sahara.

However, if you are going to slowly replace things over time or as they break/wear out than the rubi might be worth it. You get lockers that should last a while (even with bigger tires) and axles that should hold up with 37s (new shafts are a lot cheaper than new axles).

There are plenty of people on here that have a sport, because they were going to do the same, who now wish they had bought a rubi to begin with. I think some have posted recently in the 3 things you wish you knew when you started thread.

You'll probably get many different opinions on the topic. The above is just mine. It will all depend on your budget and plans.

Good luck!

The above post basically addresses everything sensibly.

Edit: also Wayoflife's post too!

Rivertoys
05-10-2013, 05:02 PM
It's a personal choice. I went with the base model X, and saved the $6,000 at the time over my Jeep with the options it had (both of them). I did not want power anything. I wanted a simple, somewhat old-school Jeep, with few systems to go wrong or worry about. I don't mind getting my feet dirty to disconnect the swaybar, or even lock hubs if it had manual hubs (my next axle will). I gave up the power stuff I did not want anyway, but I also gave up D44 up front, lockers, and the 4:1. I am not a dedicated rock crawler. I'm more of a desert, dunes, and fire road explorer. 4:1 doesn't matter to me at all, so that's a non-issue - for me. That leaves the axle and lockers.... With that $6K I saved, I can do a nice axle upgrade, when the time comes, and when done I'll have exactly the Jeep I personally want... That's what building Jeeps is all about, your personality. It's my toy, and I love to play with it. I love working on it, as much as I love using it. For me, it was worth it not to have any of the bells and whistles...but in the end, the money will be spent either way, and with a lot of my time. http://wayalife.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

There is no doubt, the Rubi is a better, more capable vehicle out of the box. If the criteria is that, then there is no other choice.

That's my $.02 http://wayalife.com/images/smilies/crazyeyes.gif

Rule18
05-10-2013, 05:15 PM
If you're planning to build it up past Rubi standards, why not start there and work up? For me, it cost less to buy the Rubi and go from there.

My :twocents:

OverlanderJK
05-10-2013, 05:17 PM
After wheeling a 4:1 transfer case last weekend, let me tell you it's night and day difference compared to the other one. It is that much better with a 6 speed too. I would say go rubi unless you plan to go with an atlas.

Rivertoys
05-10-2013, 05:23 PM
After wheeling a 4:1 transfer case last weekend, let me tell you it's night and day difference compared to the other one. It is that much better with a 6 speed too. I would say go rubi unless you plan to go with an atlas.

Yeah, I'm sure I'll drive a Rubi some day, and call myself an idiot there-after. LOL....

MobyJR
05-10-2013, 06:47 PM
Yes, says the Sport owner ;)

Napalm90
05-10-2013, 07:13 PM
Rubicon a are niiiiiccccccccceeeeeee save you money in the long run.


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paychex.308
05-10-2013, 07:13 PM
Yes, says the Sport owner ;)

^^^^^ what he said!

andrew -

GulfCoastJeeper
05-10-2013, 07:23 PM
If you never want to go over 37s or 38s I'd just buy a rubi for sure. A lot less hassle than sourcing all that stuff together later.

LetsGoMuddin
05-11-2013, 12:21 AM
Ok, I'm now convinced to buy the Rubicon model, no matter if its a 2 door or 4 door!

IAM
10-26-2016, 06:28 PM
Ok, I'm now convinced to buy the Rubicon model, no matter if its a 2 door or 4 door!

I am convinced too about getting a rubi. Right out of the box you don't have to do anything to it and worry about voiding the warranty. One of the positives about the rubi.

WJCO
10-26-2016, 06:29 PM
I am convinced too about getting a rubi. Right out of the box you don't have to do anything to it and worry about voiding the warranty. One of the positives about the rubi.


228486..........

AllAmericanInfidel
10-26-2016, 06:39 PM
228486..........

Lol! That meme is freaking hilarious!

Holy crap, back from 3 years ago! Must have taken some digging on this one!


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catahoula
10-26-2016, 06:57 PM
Lol! So did he buy one?

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IAM
10-26-2016, 07:04 PM
I am waiting for November when the 2017's come in. Iam a 49 year old chick:rock:

notnalc68
10-26-2016, 07:39 PM
I am waiting for November when the 2017's come in. Iam a 49 year old chick:rock:

Yeah, they're just fooling with you.

I've had Sports before, and when my wife decided she liked Jeeping trips, she wanted me to get a 4 door, for the extra room. I told her, "Only if it's a Rubicon." I enjoy already having lockers, without any downtime at a shop, having things installed. Being able to disconnect the sway bar, without crawling under the Jeep is nice, too.


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IAM
10-26-2016, 08:23 PM
Yeah, they're just fooling with you.

I've had Sports before, and when my wife decided she liked Jeeping trips, she wanted me to get a 4 door, for the extra room. I told her, "Only if it's a Rubicon." I enjoy already having lockers, without any downtime at a shop, having things installed. Being able to disconnect the sway bar, without crawling under the Jeep is nice, too.


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Yes, I know. How long do you think a rubi will last?

bonedaddy
10-26-2016, 08:28 PM
Most definitely ...

notnalc68
10-26-2016, 09:16 PM
Idk. Depends on how you use it, I guess.


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MR.Ty
10-26-2016, 09:27 PM
Yes, I know. How long do you think a rubi will last?
What do you mean by last? If you are looking for common issues, the lockers do tend to fail with regular use, especially with bigger tires. Mine havent and I just rolled over 34k on the dash.

Jeepfan30
10-26-2016, 10:24 PM
I just asked a local JK group that I am part of about selling my modded JKUS for a new JKUR. All of them recommended keeping my JKUS, many of the reasons were because the aftermarket parts are more reliable/stronger than OEM, and you can build a much more capable JK with aftermarket parts than what comes stock on a Rubicon. Some mentioned OEM lockers don't engage immediately like air, sway bar disconnect motors burn out, Atlas TC is better than OEM Rubicon TC.

It really boils down to how crazy you plan to go with your build. For most I would think a Rubicon with bigger tires and lift will suffice, but if you plan to replacing everything that makes a Rubicon a Rubicon, Sport seems more logical. In the end they talked me out of getting a Rubicon, and many of them own heavily modded Rubicons themselves.

jeeeep
10-26-2016, 10:53 PM
I just asked a local JK group that I am part of about selling my modded JKUS for a new JKUR. All of them recommended keeping my JKUS, many of the reasons were because the aftermarket parts are more reliable/stronger than OEM, and you can build a much more capable JK with aftermarket parts than what comes stock on a Rubicon. Some mentioned OEM lockers don't engage immediately like air, sway bar disconnect motors burn out, Atlas TC is better than OEM Rubicon TC.

It really boils down to how crazy you plan to go with your build. For most I would think a Rubicon with bigger tires and lift will suffice, but if you plan to replacing everything that makes a Rubicon a Rubicon, Sport seems more logical. In the end they talked me out of getting a Rubicon, and many of them own heavily modded Rubicons themselves.

have you replaced all the parts that make a Rubicon a Rubicon?

what they failed to tell you is that a Rubicon is much more capable than a sport without any modifications. Unless you have deep pockets and taking it from the dealer to a shop to get everything replaced a Rubicon makes more sense.

Also Rubicon parts sell better than non-Rubicon parts.

depending on how you use/abuse the Jeep parts will fail, even aftermarket.

It all depends on how you plan to use your Jeep but I can speak from my own experience my 2010 Rubicon has served me well, much of it still OEM except what I considered needed to handle the 37's I'm running. 138k+ miles and I still drive to and from the trails. I've had to make parking lot repairs and upgrade parts that have failed but Rubicon allowed me to spend money on other mods while having a vary capable trail Jeep :thumb:

jeeeep
10-26-2016, 10:58 PM
I am waiting for November when the 2017's come in. Iam a 49 year old chick:rock:

2017's are already on the lots, go shopping! :wings:

IAM
10-27-2016, 12:29 AM
Where I live we have a custom jeep shop called Sobee Jeeps right next to the dealer. He told me to get a Sport and just
Have the custom shop put in a lift and tires etc. and it would be cheaper and more personal than a rubi. I am sure everyone
Here has heard of Sobee Jeep custom jeep shops. I am up here in Massachusetts. My jeep would be used mostly for snow
and ski country. I really need a reliable jeep.

TrainWreck618
10-27-2016, 12:30 AM
http://www.stevesjeepcountry.com/images/builds/800x600/Wrangler-JK-Bushwacker-flares-2.5inch-RockKrawler.jpg

Where I live we have a custom jeep shop called Sobee Jeeps right next to the dealer. He told me to get a Sport and just
Have the custom shop put in a lift and tires etc. and it would be cheaper and more personal than a rubi. I am sure everyone
Here has heard of Sobee Jeep custom jeep shops. I am up here in Massachusetts. My jeep would be used mostly for snow
and ski country. I really need a reliable jeep.

lol.. this is pretty funny:cheesy:

TrainWreck618
10-27-2016, 12:32 AM
http://www.stevesjeepcountry.com/images/builds/800x600/Wrangler-JK-Bushwacker-flares-2.5inch-RockKrawler.jpg

Where I live we have a custom jeep shop called Sobee Jeeps right next to the dealer. He told me to get a Sport and just
Have the custom shop put in a lift and tires etc. and it would be cheaper and more personal than a rubi. I am sure everyone
Here has heard of Sobee Jeep custom jeep shops. I am up here in Massachusetts. My jeep would be used mostly for snow
and ski country. I really need a reliable jeep.

sorry, I don't know where to begin

notnalc68
10-27-2016, 12:36 AM
The custom shop told you to get a Sport, or the Jeep dealer? If you are just going to be on road, dealing with snow, I'm sure a Sport would be fine.


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IAM
10-27-2016, 12:50 AM
The custom shop told you to get a Sport, or the Jeep dealer? If you are just going to be on road, dealing with snow, I'm sure a Sport would be fine.


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The custom shop told me to get a sport because the guy said why buy a rubi and then rip everything out.
The dealer always wants you to buy the most expensive jeep. You spend 10 grand less on a sport than a rubi
Then put your own lift,tires etc on it

13_gecko_rubi
10-27-2016, 12:55 AM
The dealer who probably is connected with the shop recommended you get a sport then pay them to do upgrades rather than just buy a rubicon? Shocker, that's because they'd make way more money.

If you are looking at mainly snow though, look at the new cold weather package on the 2017 Sport. It comes with BFG KO2s which will be much better in the snow than many of the other factory tires. Also jeep typically releases a special winter edition to tie to winter x games they sponsor which has had KO2s the past couple years.

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Clutch
10-27-2016, 12:56 AM
The custom shop told me to get a sport because the guy said why buy a rubi and then rip everything out.
The dealer always wants you to buy the most expensive jeep. You spend 10 grand less on a sport than a rubi
Then put your own lift,tires etc on it

Yea, and the shop guy wants you to spend that money at his shop! Someone's gonna get your money, except at least if you get a Rubi that value goes toward Blue Book; labor costs don't.

IAM
10-27-2016, 12:59 AM
The dealer who probably is connected with the shop recommended you get a sport then pay them to do upgrades rather than just buy a rubicon? Shocker, that's because they'd make way more money.

If you are looking at mainly snow though, look at the new cold weather package on the 2017 Sport. It comes with BFG KO2s which will be much better in the snow than many of the other factory tires. Also jeep typically releases a special winter edition to tie to winter x games they sponsor which has had KO2s the past couple years.

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Yes you are right the shops are connected. I will check out the cold weather package when it I see it out.

jeeeep
10-27-2016, 01:00 AM
Where I live we have a custom jeep shop called Sobee Jeeps right next to the dealer. He told me to get a Sport and just
Have the custom shop put in a lift and tires etc. and it would be cheaper and more personal than a rubi. I am sure everyone
Here has heard of Sobee Jeep custom jeep shops. I am up here in Massachusetts. My jeep would be used mostly for snow
and ski country. I really need a reliable jeep.

wow...I smell a load of BS - kick-back ....

I'm wondering what they mean by "more personal than a Rubi", it's a Jeep! not much difference in interiors from model to model.

As for cheaper that's a laughable tactic, yes a Sport is cheaper than a Rubi, but a Rubi has more capabilities than a Sport. Nothing wrong with a sport, I have one as well but for offroad the Rubi hands down.

I'm betting he's telling you to take all those savings and have Sobee "customize" your Jeep with overpriced cheap parts for looks. I've heard that same pitch from a dealer here that also has a custom shop. The prices I got for them to "customize" my Jeep to make it what I wanted was ridiculous, the margins on their cheap parts were 4x what I could buy them for online and it did nothing to upgrade the main reason I bought a Jeep for.

IMO the word "custom" is overpriced cheap parts that look good. Given that you live in snow country I'd get the Rubicon with the stock features you like and drive it as is. Get used to how it handles and decide on how you will ultimately use it before making any modifications to it. Modifying your Jeep will change its handling characteristics

IAM
10-27-2016, 01:01 AM
Yea, and the shop guy wants you to spend that money at his shop! Someone's gonna get your money, except at least if you get a Rubi that value goes toward Blue Book; labor costs don't.
That is a great point. I am better off with a rubi in the end. Thank you for helping me decide:thumb:

BobNH
10-27-2016, 01:33 AM
How'd the Steves Jeep Country pic end up in there? Just wondered, as that is where I bought my Rubicon. Great people. As to reg vs rubi-you cant beat for the price what you get. Bottom line is the 4:1 t-case. This makes it hands down the best weekend warrior for those of us who DD in particular. You get the 4.10 gears which are great all around gears, and then the low crawl ratio when you go offroad. I can now comfortably run the highways to wherever I want to wheel. The t-case was my main reason for buying it. The lockers are just nice to have with it.

notnalc68
10-27-2016, 01:35 AM
How'd the Steves Jeep Country pic end up in there? Just wondered, as that is where I bought my Rubicon. Great people. As to reg vs rubi-you cant beat for the price what you get. Bottom line is the 4:1 t-case. This makes it hands down the best weekend warrior for those of us who DD in particular. You get the 4.10 gears which are great all around gears, and then the low crawl ratio when you go offroad. I can now comfortably run the highways to wherever I want to wheel. The t-case was my main reason for buying it. The lockers are just nice to have with it.

4.10 gears are an option, now. Not all of them may have them.


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IAM
10-27-2016, 01:38 AM
How'd the Steves Jeep Country pic end up in there? Just wondered, as that is where I bought my Rubicon. Great people. As to reg vs rubi-you cant beat for the price what you get. Bottom line is the 4:1 t-case. This makes it hands down the best weekend warrior for those of us who DD in particular. You get the 4.10 gears which are great all around gears, and then the low crawl ratio when you go offroad. I can now comfortably run the highways to wherever I want to wheel. The t-case was my main reason for buying it. The lockers are just nice to have with it.

It's funny you mentioned about the steves jeeps county pic. I have no idea how that got there. I was wondering the same thing
myself.... :thinking:

tanmanjk
10-27-2016, 01:56 AM
I've had two rubicons. A tj and a jk. Love them both. I've probably never used them to their full potential, but it's nice to know I have extra machinery to help out if I need it.

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TRLJNKY
10-27-2016, 02:44 AM
If I could get a do over... i would love to have the head start of a Rubi. Unless your made of $$$ and can just hook up a sport or sahara from day one. Go Rubi at the beginning.

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Evil
10-27-2016, 04:26 AM
The custom shop told me to get a sport because the guy said why buy a rubi and then rip everything out.
The dealer always wants you to buy the most expensive jeep. You spend 10 grand less on a sport than a rubi
Then put your own lift,tires etc on it


What all are they ripping out to lift a Rubi???? New shocks and springs and rims if you so choose and new tires? Think about that for a sec.

cartertripp
10-27-2016, 05:58 AM
It truly depends on what you want to do. If you plan on keep the stock axles with the stock lockers then yes it's worth it. If you plan on upgrading to D60's then get a sport and put the money in those axles later.


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notnalc68
10-27-2016, 09:56 AM
It truly depends on what you want to do. If you plan on keep the stock axles with the stock lockers then yes it's worth it. If you plan on upgrading to D60's then get a sport and put the money in those axles later.


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You can get much more $$, selling take off Rubicon axles, than Sport or Sahara axles.


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jesse3638
10-27-2016, 04:50 PM
Where I live we have a custom jeep shop called Sobee Jeeps right next to the dealer. He told me to get a Sport and just
Have the custom shop put in a lift and tires etc. and it would be cheaper and more personal than a rubi. I am sure everyone
Here has heard of Sobee Jeep custom jeep shops. I am up here in Massachusetts. My jeep would be used mostly for snow
and ski country. I really need a reliable jeep.

As mentioned unless you plan on replacing the t-case with an atlas thats another reason to get a Rubi. Its even more personal when you so all of your own research and decide what you want to do with your build. Then you purchase the parts yourself and do the install. I installed my long arm lift in my garage over the course of 3.5 weeks and many other things since that, so I feel its more personal than paying a shop to do the install. In doing so I got to know the in's and out's of my Jeep and all the components I installed. I've had it for nearly 5 years now and its pretty damn reliable.

Jeepfan30
10-27-2016, 05:45 PM
As mentioned unless you plan on replacing the t-case with an atlas thats another reason to get a Rubi. Its even more personal when you so all of your own research and decide what you want to do with your build. Then you purchase the parts yourself and do the install. I installed my long arm lift in my garage over the course of 3.5 weeks and many other things since that, so I feel its more personal than paying a shop to do the install. In doing so I got to know the in's and out's of my Jeep and all the components I installed. I've had it for nearly 5 years now and its pretty damn reliable.

Agreed. My Sport is very personal since I have installed everything with my own hands after much research, to include the gears/Truetracs/Rubi sway bar with No Limits. The only thing I didn't do was the welding of my c gussets and control arm skids. Having the knowledge and tools to do the work yourself saves a ton of money and you learn a ton.

My next Jeep will likely be a Rubicon just because it would be nice to have lockers/disco/TC/leather right away and under factory warranty, but I have had a great time building my Sport.

Benji
10-27-2016, 07:45 PM
I debated this question for a while before purchasing my Jeep as well. I went with the Sport. When I really started looking I was going to build past rubicon factory mod's anyway at some point. It's a family DD for now and I just couldn't justify the Rubicon.

However the biggest gripe seems to be having the 4:1 transfer case. I picked up a used one offline for $1000 (it is year specific before/after 2012). AEV Procal now has the ability to change the t-case gears for the ECU. I have the only thing I wanted from a Rubicon and I didn't have to front $6k extra at the dealership. The 44 front? Simple. Buy a Rubicon take off or buy a pro-rock etc. assembly. With a Rubicon take off beefed up im still way below Rubicon price tag and have all the stuff I really wanted.

Electric8Willy
10-27-2016, 08:05 PM
What I liked most about the Rubicon is the larger Wheel Base and Tires.

jeepsterchris
10-27-2016, 09:06 PM
What I liked most about the Rubicon is the larger Wheel Base and Tires.

Well, that makes no sense.

Anyhoo...my '13 that I blew up was a sport...and I thought I'd be just fine with it...until I got my 14 Rubi. Funny how my Sport was just fine until I got a taste of something better...

DKjeep
10-27-2016, 09:33 PM
I would have to say no.

notnalc68
10-27-2016, 10:04 PM
If you are going to take the axles out of the sport, change the transfer case, and put in lockers, immediately, yeah go with the sport. That's what I thought I'd do, and never did. When I needed 2 extra doors, I bought a rubicon.


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Napalm
10-27-2016, 10:39 PM
I'll throw in my two cents!

For my budget, what I'd be using it for, and the fact that my wife won't dare but used, I went with a Sport S. The first reason was obviously financial. I couldn't afford to foot the extra money that you have to pay for the Rubicon. I could have bought one used, but after many bad experiences with previously used vehicles, my wife won't have it. Buying a new Rubicon would have made for a higher payment for me which means no room for mods.

My next reason is what I'd be doing with it. Honestly, I had this "dream" whenever I bought my first Jeep back in 2011 that I would actually get out and be a hardcore wheeler. Now, five Jeeps later I realize that is not me and I may wheel 2-3 times a year if I am lucky. So, with my amount of wheeling I knew I couldn't justify the extra prices for the added goodies.

I knew I wasn't going to change out the axles, suspension, transfer case, any of that right away. Even with that though I couldn't justify the price of a new Rubicon. I knew that the biggest size tire I'd run would be a 35" so I knew that I would be "okay" with the D30. Even when I am on the trails, I run the easier lines and play it safe. I know, I am boring. My Jeep is a daily driver first, and champion off road hard core wheeling machine second. ;)

Bottom line is, whenever my sport was stock, I wish I could have had a Rubicon. Now that it's modified how I like it(almost), I wouldn't trade it for anything.

RedSyndrome
10-27-2016, 10:57 PM
Caught by an old thread.

Draconianwinter
10-28-2016, 06:33 AM
The custom shop told me to get a sport because the guy said why buy a rubi and then rip everything out.
The dealer always wants you to buy the most expensive jeep. You spend 10 grand less on a sport than a rubi
Then put your own lift,tires etc on it
I had a an 83 cj7 renegade for almost 5 years. If I had the room I would have kept it, but I didn't and I wanted a new jeep. Now the cj7 was pretty stock except for the longer shackles and the 31 inch tires. I am not a hardcore wheeler like many on here. That said any set up will work and last if you are careful. When I sold my cj I made my mind up that I wanted the rubicon, because if I had to getting rid of my cj then I wanted something even more capable right off the bat. And before anyone says anything yes I am very aware that the cj and the jk are two very different animals. Not comparing them exactly just the set up. And frankly even though my cj had higher ground clearance than my rubi does currently, though not for long, I find I am much more comfortable with putting my rubi on trails I would have likely avoided with my cj. The 4:1 transfer case along with my 4.10 gears gives me a crawl ratio of like 68:1 or with the stock tires. The difference that makes is unbelievable. I seldom have to give any skinny pedal to go over things in my rubi and mostly just idle through. This allows me to take my time and pay closer attention to what my jeep is doing on an obstacle. That all said it will, like most have started come down to how you will use your jeep and also preference. Any jeep is capable and every jeep can be made more capable. Regardless of which one you go with have fun with it and enjoy your life in your jeep.

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cartertripp
10-28-2016, 06:34 AM
You can get much more $$, selling take off Rubicon axles, than Sport or Sahara axles.


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Really? How much do you think a D44 front and rear would sell for?


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12-mile
10-28-2016, 11:51 AM
I love it when an old thread comes back to life. You get some new perspective on things


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notnalc68
10-28-2016, 12:27 PM
Really? How much do you think a D44 front and rear would sell for?


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Search the, "For Sale," section


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Huntpab1
10-28-2016, 08:36 PM
Depends on what you want your end build to be, if u want to go all out and go crazy you will more than likely change everything but for a dd weekend warrior it will be better


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