piginajeep
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How do you loose travel? Shocks can be built any way you want them
Fox/King shocks???
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How do you loose travel? Shocks can be built any way you want them
Mitch
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Ok, I have a certain shock length I can drive with my ----2"lift for example. If they are to long collapsed I permanently go on block with them. And collapsed they will rip my driveshaft or the boot or hit the exhaust or or or.
So I have a certain level of collapsed/expanded length.
So having quite similar collapsed/extended lengths larger diameter shocks have less travel.
For every diameter larger travel goes down for appr 2"
For instance my Bilstein 5100 for 2.5" lift have appr 11" travel. with extended length close to 26.xx
Having the same length the Fox 2.0 have 10"travel and the 2.5 King OEM only 8"
Just look of all the extended and collapsed lengths of all the different shocks and look at the travel.
It´s a bit of work for the OEM shocks because they are not listed with lengths only with lift recommendations.
But believe me the travel of the shock gets less with same overall length with those larger diameters. Not with all and there is a difference between the manufacturers.
Those are the 2.0 shocks smooth body res.
And here are the 2.5 shocks smooth body res.
King looks a bit different but overall the same. So if you are restricted to a certain length because of the driveshaft issue or so.........
Maybe it´s just a bit harder for me to explain as a native German speaker. So I might talk a bit weird and hard to understand when it´s getting so technical.
So I have a certain level of collapsed/expanded length.
So having quite similar collapsed/extended lengths larger diameter shocks have less travel.
For every diameter larger travel goes down for appr 2"
For instance my Bilstein 5100 for 2.5" lift have appr 11" travel. with extended length close to 26.xx
Having the same length the Fox 2.0 have 10"travel and the 2.5 King OEM only 8"
Just look of all the extended and collapsed lengths of all the different shocks and look at the travel.
It´s a bit of work for the OEM shocks because they are not listed with lengths only with lift recommendations.
But believe me the travel of the shock gets less with same overall length with those larger diameters. Not with all and there is a difference between the manufacturers.
Those are the 2.0 shocks smooth body res.
And here are the 2.5 shocks smooth body res.
King looks a bit different but overall the same. So if you are restricted to a certain length because of the driveshaft issue or so.........
Maybe it´s just a bit harder for me to explain as a native German speaker. So I might talk a bit weird and hard to understand when it´s getting so technical.
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Mitch
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Ok....
Assume you can´t use a longer shock than 27" because of the driveshaft/exhaust issue and can´t afford to fix it directly now. Or just because of your lift height.
Then look in my list. Which shock/travel can you get then with a 2.0 shock and which one with 2.5 shocks ??
If 27" extended length is the max length you can go fo the 10" 2.0 shock but with a 2.5 you must stay with 8" shock.
Of course if you can go coil over or spend extra money for custom length...... then you can just choose by travel and don´t have to worry about those things
But if you are restricted to certain shock lengths it my be not such a good idea to always go for the bigger(dia) shock.
I don´t want to say you should always go fo the smaller shock but maybe you should look/think twice.
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i think i have an idea of what he is trying to say, but it is incorrect saying you lose travel. u basically loose available uptravel if mounted in the stock location because the collapsed lengths are greater on the larger diameter shocks. But the over all travel is the same since the extended lengths are greater on the larger diameter shocks. if you look at the king site at the smoothie shocks, this is what you see. using a 2.0"x10" and 2.5"x10"(for example, these could be used with a 3-4" lift setup)
collapsed extended
2.0x10" Smoothie Hose Reservoir 17.050 27.050
2.5x10" Smoothie Hose Reservoir 18.375 28.375
they both have 10" of travel. The problem with all this is that we never really use all of the available uptravel and reach the fully collapsed length due to other clearance issues like big tires smashing the fenders. hence, bumpstops. however, if these shocks were used on the same rig at the same ride height the 2.0 would yeild 1" more uptravel while the 2.5" would yeild 1" more droop. and the 2.0 would yeild 1" less droop, and the 2.5" would yeild 1" less uptravel. this of course if there were no other clearance considerations like driveshafts, bumpstops, etc. and all 10" of travel were usable.
the goal is to move the shock mount up higher to allow the use of a longer shock. the higher mount eliminate the need for longer/taller bumpstops and will make up for the longer collapsed length, but you can take advantage of the additional extended length.
Mitch
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If you don´t get any other issues with that.
I´m always looking for the extended length as I don´t want to change driveshaft because of the costs her in Germany. And changing the shock mount points is a nogo here.
So if 27" extended length is my limit (so it´s also a droop issue) I can go with the 10" 2.0 or if I want the 2.5 shock I only can go with the 8"
I can´t compete with coilovers, longarm kits and so on.
I have a 2" OME kit and now I´m looking for new shocks to get the best out of it.......
Even with this small things my JKUR costs more than $ 70000
That´s why I think the other way around and say you loose travel.
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go with the 2.0x10". you wont be able to use the extra 1" in uptravel afforded by the 2.5x8" because of bumpstops and tire clearance, but u will be able to use the extra 3" extended length of the 2.0x10". :thumb:
Mitch
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I´ll do I´ll do.
I`ll either go with 10" 2.0 bypass shocks or 2.0 res, adj. OEM ones + Teraflex ( or something like this) speed bumps.
Just waiting for the offers here.