Moving from 35's to 37's
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Sheaffadelic
Caught the Bug
make sure you pull down and out and not up and over. gotta ge the knuckle at the right angle :thumb:
DWiggles
Caught the Bug
WHY sleeve and truss it when you are just going to bitch MORE when it fails anyway. :idontknow:
"$200" for these magic "hammer- in" sleeves
$250 for a truss kit
$800 in labor for someone to pull the front axle and POSSIBLY hammer in the magics
$1000 for someone to prep and weld in the truss properly.
You are at $2,250 of WASTED MONEY and for about $30 more, you could have actually upgraded to a PR44 housing... this thread is retarded.
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"$200" for these magic "hammer- in" sleeves
$250 for a truss kit
$800 in labor for someone to pull the front axle and POSSIBLY hammer in the magics
$1000 for someone to prep and weld in the truss properly.
You are at $2,250 of WASTED MONEY and for about $30 more, you could have actually upgraded to a PR44 housing... this thread is retarded.
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notnalc68
That dude from Mississippi
WJCO
Meme King
Just a disclaimer: I have not tried the straw method in any orifice nor am I an expert or engineer. I am merely basing this assumed scenario off of logic an common sense. Do YOUR OWN research before inserting a 2 strawed assembly into your butthole while pondering if differential tube sleeves are the right choice for your vehicle.
Kyle7R
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ADA OZ
New member
Just to play the devil part
I do not disagree with you but...
Sleeves and Gussets can be had for about $100 dry ice is fun to play with and will help with installation. Weld your own gussets on your D30 just for fun and practice same with the truss if you want, I think you can find one of those for about $100 as well. The you get all that experience and fun of working on your Jeep and save some money( or waste it building a D30 depending on how you look at it)
Save that other money for when it breaks...
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mudmobeeler
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You assume everybody can or should weld. I've seen plenty of "welders" who need to do more work with a grinder.
DWiggles
Caught the Bug
so YOUR time is worth nothing? :doh:
EDIT:
OK, lets ASSume your time is worth nothing
so
$200 for the magic "Hammer-ins"
$250 for the Truss
$1000 for a 180+ amp 210V welding setup
$150 for argon/CO2 bottle (first time purchase)
$$$ axle fixture to keep it from bending when heated
$500 for air compressor&air tools for truss prep
you STILL have to Drive the jeep as it sits until you
Learn to weld
pull the axle
hammer in the magic
Weld on the truss
or... you could have...
Bough a prorock housing, for $100 more!!
This is still retarded :thumb:
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ADA OZ
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Not ASSuming anything. Just making conversation.
As I said I don't disagree with you. Just a different thought. That's all.
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As I said I don't disagree with you. Just a different thought. That's all.
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DWiggles
Caught the Bug
here is a trussed 3 link rear 44, as you can see, the axle was MUCH stronger! Much improved, Much Wow. :doh: :hmm: :cheesy:
The truss poorly attempts to mitigate 1 problem, but the axle still fails. in this specific case, the whole pumpkin rotated. :naw:
Saharaunlmtd
Caught the Bug
Is the assumption that the individual couldn't install a $120 DIY hammer in sleeve their selves, but they could set up the R&P in the PR44 without incurring labor costs? Seems that the cost difference is a bit understated.
DWiggles
Caught the Bug
he would have to regear regardless of what he does about axle housings?? so that cost should be included in the comparison because...??? :daydream: :thinking: :hmm:
$200 for the magic sleeves, we're not talking about shit $120 diy sleeves, we're talking the real deal under $200 hamming magic sleeves!!!
EDIT: waste your money. We'll be here when you come back to tell us how you broke it anyway. :yup:
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notnalc68
That dude from Mississippi
HighwayTrout
Hooked
What happened to that guy that had a complete meltdown cause he installed the wrong sleeves and fucked up his axle? Got butt hurt cause of the "I told you so's" and still tried to say sleeves are the greatest even after his was ruined.
People are going to believe what they want and try to convince others only to justify their purchase to themselves.
People are going to believe what they want and try to convince others only to justify their purchase to themselves.
Saharaunlmtd
Caught the Bug
My apologies. I reread the OP and regearing was mentioned so that cost would have no bearing to the discussion.
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JKDream
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Still missing the point. The tube RARELY bends in the middle. It bends at the pumpkin. Therefore sleeves are useless. Also, your argument on hammer in sleeves really has no weight. Welding will ALWAYS be stronger. The point you are making is like saying a bolt on track bar bracket is stronger than a weld on bracket. It's retarded.
the_debtenator
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My original statements were about the tubes splitting after hitting something. Most axles I've seen bent were all at the C. And no it's nothing like a bolt or trackbar bracket. In regards to tubing it is usually always stronger to have a compression fit opposed to rosette welds. But I guess after years of working on hydraulic cranes and heavy equipment I'll just stick to the advice on here, thanks. And yes welding is stronger than simply bolting something on, I am talking about hammer in sleeves that are a machined fit and support the tubing not only at the welded locations. And yes everyone I understand sleeves will not stop axle failure!!!! But I do think that they help, no they will not prevent a bend at the center section. But installing sleeves and gussets for around 230$ it's not a bad idea. I have sleeves and gussets on my rubi 44, had a hard hit on a rock and broke off 4 brackets and bent the rest. The axle itself was still straight as an arrow.
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DWiggles
Caught the Bug
You think a "hammer in" sleeve is going to net a compression fit? ...I hope you are joking...
The pure nature of impacting the sleeve repetitively is going to cause bending moments throughout the sleeve and axle housing. And that is without even taking into consideration the human error effect considering you have a moron swinging a hammer on the end... but you're the expert. I guess all the hydraulic press manufactueres around the world have a lot to learn from your years of experience...
I for one, am not well versed in magic. I only focus on things like "facts" so my knowlege is "usually always" lacking here.
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