olram30
Not That Kind of Engineer
My thoughts are the same towards you.
What happened guys?
- Thread starter David1tontj
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My thoughts are the same towards you.
devonn216
Member
I hear that! I'm the same way! I don't cast judgement on anything jeep related. I'm just that's cool man. Sweet jeep. Let's hit some trails.
You'll forgive me but it wouldn't have taken "balls" for David to contact me directly by PM to express his concerns. I am after all the only one who has control over how this forum is run and if I wanted, I could even turn it off on all of you right this second.
LOL!! Just because you choose to believe that my forum is going downhill doesn't mean that it is. But, even if it were, I think you've confused me with someone who'd care. I started this forum for myself because I wanted a place on the internet where I could share what I have learned. For those who don't like what I have to say, they don't have to be here. :yup:
Sharkey
Word Ninja
The irony in this thread is palpable. Apparently it is perfectly acceptable for one's given group of friends to give an opinion about a sticker and what that means about the owner but completely unacceptable for a moderator to give an opinion about a product...interesting.
I generally try not bash anyone for a particular product they run: their jeep, their money, their choice. That said, I have no problem pointing out what I see as problems with a particular product if I have personal experience with it, especially when someone claims it is the best thing since sliced bread or it is just as good as some of the other alternatives. Are the moderators, myself included, not allowed to have opinions on products simply because we are moderators? That seems pretty stupid to me (wait, can I say stupid or is that another one of those words that is going to hurt someone's feelings?).
Are there times when the kid gloves have to come off? Of course. Nine times out of ten though, it is because someone has completely gone off the deep end.
I generally try not bash anyone for a particular product they run: their jeep, their money, their choice. That said, I have no problem pointing out what I see as problems with a particular product if I have personal experience with it, especially when someone claims it is the best thing since sliced bread or it is just as good as some of the other alternatives. Are the moderators, myself included, not allowed to have opinions on products simply because we are moderators? That seems pretty stupid to me (wait, can I say stupid or is that another one of those words that is going to hurt someone's feelings?).
Are there times when the kid gloves have to come off? Of course. Nine times out of ten though, it is because someone has completely gone off the deep end.
MTG
Caught the Bug
Funny thing is, if you ever travel abroad, I can tell you that America has it's fair share of haters and I don't just mean the ISIS types. You'll actually have people come up to you and give you grief for being an American - for being so wasteful, for not having good health care, for not being caring enough, for being so arrogant, for being so ignorant, etc. What's really sad is that there are so many here in America who agree with the "constructive criticism" and actively try to change the way we do things.
REKLESS-RED
New member
MR.Ty
Token East Coast Guy
LOL This is so true. May favorite was the French man that kept yelling, "France is best country you bastard Americans!"
And, did that make you want you to apologize for being an American?
devonn216
Member
There's always going to be people who like you and people who don't. Some people abroad treat you like royalty and other spit on you. It is what it is.
Texas Nick
Caught the Bug
Hot damn. Hit the nail on the head.
No matter where you go what you do, right or wrong. there shall always be someone with a negative opinion or comment. That's just life.
MR.Ty
Token East Coast Guy
No it did not.
piginajeep
The Original Smartass
You should of told that fuck, your welcome for having to say it in German.
stweasel
Member
I love that Eddie and the Mods bring criticism to the forefront, they don't hide when someone calls them on something, they don't delete threads when people accuse them of stuff. They are extremely helpful to everyone and if you ask for an opinion they give it. When I had an issue with my Jeep, Overlander responded quickly with an answer to diagnose my issue. We need more people like them who are helpful and not necessarily PC. If they recommend a product over another because of build quality to save you more money down the road it's all the better. You may feel like everyone is leaving, or is angry, as this is a community and like any community you stay or you get tired and move somewhere else. When I look at the numbers Wayalife has added nearly 3000 new members since the beginning of the year so obviously plenty of people are still moving in and WAL is growing so Eddie must be doing something right.:thinking:
07silverjk
New member
thardy
Banned
You are so right. It really is amazing how people get so butt hurt when others don't agree with their opinion.
It seems like the last few that have gone off the deep end act like Eddie and the other moderators are supposed to keep their opinions to themselves. Simply crazy.
JAGS
Hooked
Some people are overly sensitive, right. :cheesy:
Like you said, no point in arguing. :thumb: Issues can easily be resolved in PM form. To me, boils down to this....Don't like the forum, take a break or leave. Don't like a particular thread, don't read it or respond in it.
JK BLK
New member
I've only been a member of this forum for the past 4 months maybe? I've only had my Jeep for 6 months and joined this forum after I saw the Rubicon videos. I read often and while I don't post a lot, I have gained a ton of knowledge here that I didn't get on a different forum. When I do get the Lift/tires/accessories I want, it'll be based on what I've seen (Eddies videos) not just what somebody says. Heck, if you followed one of the other forums, we would all have Grade 8 bolt kits and nobody would use the stock tire carrier!
To the OP's original post, most of the threads where I've seen people get upset is when they come here as say "I'm thinking about Brand x but what do you think about Brand Y?" It seems they have already decided to go with Brand X and then when Eddie (or some of the very experienced members) come back and refute Brand X, then they get confrontational and then it progresses to the"everybody else was right, this forum, blah, blah, blah. I'm watching and learning based on what I see and I see that Eddie KNOWS his stuff. When he or some of the other guys here recommend something, you can bet it's been proven. I'm going to be ordering a windshield decal and some fender decals for my rig soon and I'll proudly display them. And if someone asks me about them I'll tell them if you want the best No nonsense advice (as well as some funny stuff, too) this forum is the real deal. My :twocents:!
To the OP's original post, most of the threads where I've seen people get upset is when they come here as say "I'm thinking about Brand x but what do you think about Brand Y?" It seems they have already decided to go with Brand X and then when Eddie (or some of the very experienced members) come back and refute Brand X, then they get confrontational and then it progresses to the"everybody else was right, this forum, blah, blah, blah. I'm watching and learning based on what I see and I see that Eddie KNOWS his stuff. When he or some of the other guys here recommend something, you can bet it's been proven. I'm going to be ordering a windshield decal and some fender decals for my rig soon and I'll proudly display them. And if someone asks me about them I'll tell them if you want the best No nonsense advice (as well as some funny stuff, too) this forum is the real deal. My :twocents:!
David1tontj
New member
Please forgive the delayed responses today- I try to catch up on my breaks.
I seriously considered a pm. The only reason I didn't was that you have made it very clear that this is an open forum where things stay out for everyone to see. Also- it wasn't directly to you- more the forum as a whole. People tend to jump on the bandwagon and "take a few swings". I'm just letting people know where I stand on that. If this would have been better as a pm, my apologies. You could even lock the thread and give me a call. I'm not angry, and won't come unglued. Again- that's not what this thread was intended for.
As far as parts that I have vested interest in..... My jeep doesn't have real parts. Haha. It's ..... Well- you've seen it- "homemade"
