WJCO
Meme King
I got 350hp on a 4 wheel dyno with my old 2002 WRX with about 3k in bolt on mods and a good tune. It is crazy what they can do with a 4 cyl turbo nowadays.
WTF - 368 HP 2.0L Turbo I4 JL Wrangler??
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I got 350hp on a 4 wheel dyno with my old 2002 WRX with about 3k in bolt on mods and a good tune. It is crazy what they can do with a 4 cyl turbo nowadays.
Exodus 4x4
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Yep, happens every time. Like the old saying goes, there’s no replacement for displacement.
Perfectly said.
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One would wonder now how well said engine would perform at Moab, for instance, considering the likelihood of significant torque boost as well. Then one would have to ask the fuel economy in town and on the highway considering the blocky nature of the Wrangler even with its new, more "aerodynamic" modifications.
My concern is that I no longer need a four-door Wrangler and have no need for a four-door truck (though want an extended cab version.) No news on two-door variants of either model has come out yet, though we've seen a camouflaged 2-door Wrangler in photos.
One would wonder now how well said engine would perform at Moab, for instance, considering the likelihood of significant torque boost as well. Then one would have to ask the fuel economy in town and on the highway considering the blocky nature of the Wrangler even with its new, more "aerodynamic" modifications.
My concern is that I no longer need a four-door Wrangler and have no need for a four-door truck (though want an extended cab version.) No news on two-door variants of either model has come out yet, though we've seen a camouflaged 2-door Wrangler in photos.
Ddays
Hooked
I know this is the way the manufacturers are going trying to keep up and meet the corporate CAFE mileage standards, but I'm still not sold on the turbo 4 concept. What surprises me is why Jeep doesn't come out with a special edition
positioned as a premium model even above the Rubicon that has a special engine and offroad specific bits that is geared to the offroad/crawling crowd. Automakers used to shy away from special models (or just threw stickers and wings on something to make a special) but look at what Dodge does with the SRT models and Ford with the SVO division. Hell, Dodge has a SRT Durango this year with a 475HP Hemi. How many of those will they sell? Bet its under 10,000 of them. They would sell a hell of a lot more than that with a "Halo Jeep" model.
positioned as a premium model even above the Rubicon that has a special engine and offroad specific bits that is geared to the offroad/crawling crowd. Automakers used to shy away from special models (or just threw stickers and wings on something to make a special) but look at what Dodge does with the SRT models and Ford with the SVO division. Hell, Dodge has a SRT Durango this year with a 475HP Hemi. How many of those will they sell? Bet its under 10,000 of them. They would sell a hell of a lot more than that with a "Halo Jeep" model.
DWiggles
Caught the Bug
umm... OK???
... it took all of 2 seconds to find out who the keyboard warrior truly is in this case...
So by YOUR example of "low end torque" in a modern turbo 4, it looks like we just have the wheel obstacles and negotiate rock beds at... oh, look at that, upwards of 3500 RPM + in 4lo and hope there is enough load to spool ... :cheesy:
Seems pretty "LOW END" to me :crazyeyes:
CLA45
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TrailHunter
Hooked
Yeah... without a doubt. I’ve seen them at the drag strip run 1/4 mile... They turn heads for sure!... but then the V8’s step back in the waterbox and all is right in the world again.. lol.. It will be interesting to see what Jeep produces, without Needing that $3k number you just mentioned.
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DWiggles
Caught the Bug
I got 468 hp, 505 ft-lbs from my built 2.5ej :thumb: ...But it took 3800 rpm to get things going...
Ddays
Hooked
Not meaning to dogpile but this isn't my idea of an offroad vehicle and its engine performance as shown above is kinda irrevelant to what is needed offroad :thinking:
DWiggles
Caught the Bug
are you trying to say you don't negotiate a rock beds at a minimum "low end" of 3500rpm :thinking: :idontknow: Guess we've all been doing it wrong... :crazyeyes:
Ddays
Hooked
LOL, hell ya man! Hold muh beer Cooter and I'll show you how to wheel!
Seriously tho, I know the Ford Ecoboosts make boost low, I'm just not a big fan of turbos for offroad in general. On road, hell ya.
WJCO
Meme King
Dude, I didn't know you had one of these. Badass. You'll have to start a build thread in the 8th slot. Seriously.
notnalc68
That dude from Mississippi
I’m hoping the Scrambler will have that, as an option.
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Exodus 4x4
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The ecoboost is a great engine and performs well, but compared to its 5.0 V8 counterpart? It’s not the same. Dwiggles is right.
Personally I would just take the money being spent on a JL and do a LS swap.
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HighwayTrout
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A fucking mercedes? Really?
No I’m not going to test drive a CLA45 and try and think it’s going to extrapolate the same to a Wrangler.
Look, pretty sure we all get it. Subaru, Honda, apparently Mercedes, you name it. They have the 4 cylinder DOWN. Chrysler, yea not so much...
Much like ford and it’s eco boost. Have any of them lasted beyond a 100k, hell or even half that without a major problem? Shit ass engines with good numbers and trickery sales pitches.
No I’m not going to test drive a CLA45 and try and think it’s going to extrapolate the same to a Wrangler.
Look, pretty sure we all get it. Subaru, Honda, apparently Mercedes, you name it. They have the 4 cylinder DOWN. Chrysler, yea not so much...
Much like ford and it’s eco boost. Have any of them lasted beyond a 100k, hell or even half that without a major problem? Shit ass engines with good numbers and trickery sales pitches.
WJCO
Meme King
Seeing a lot of the Ford Ecoboosts (3.5L TT) with blown pistons and rods. Not sure of cause yet, but seen a good 10 of them in the last year or so.
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NevadaZielmeister
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True, or even a 1.6L V6 in an F1 car. They are pushing 600+ BHP from the engine alone. But I digress.
Will the turbo spooling issue create a need for different wheeling techniques? My thoughts are that when the turbo does "hit" then the torque grind will really put a stress on the drivetrain components.
No keyboard warrior here, having owned several motorcycles (ram air) and 2 WRX's (turbo), the turbo/air lag is real.
