This is a rhetorical question right?
No, it's not.
So saying "as for you, you fuck" to Overlander isn't bad???
He came out guns' ablazin, i fired back. i thought he was invincible
If anyone "has a personal vendetta" what makes you the defender of this prick anyways?
I don't understand how i'm defending the guy, i just didn't understand why you all feel it is necessary to occasionally bring it up, i thought this whole situation should have become irrelevant by now.
Ps Tell your buddy Maertz and his sweet ass JK build (wreck) hi
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Son, learn when to quit, show some semblance of an ability to accept accountability. You've hit rock bottom. There is no redemption. Don't prove yourself to be an epic amateur and bust out a shovel looking to dig for China.
Rock bottom of what? This is the internet...i think i have a long way to go before i hit rock bottom, none of you know me; the same way i don't know any of you or 13JKUR
Except a free 2013 jeep from mommy right?
I didn't ask for it, if receiving a gift and being grateful for it is a handout then i am guilty as charged.
Damn, I've been trying my hardest to stay off my own forum so that I wouldn't get so distracted from work that I NEED to do but clearly, I'm missing out on all the fun. :sigh:
Having said all that, I just couldn't let this one go....
You're right, what this guy did was wrong and if you think it's time to get over it - get over it. Nobody is forcing you to be here or read ANYTHING that you don't want. If you don't like what you see, DON'T READ IT! It really is that simple.
As a matter of fact, yeah, he should man up and apologize to Mel and everyone here for what he did and not just to make everything "better" with the members of this forum but rather, just because it would be the right thing to do.
So then none of this should matter to you.
Then you shouldn't ASSUME how they feel.
You sure do like to make a lot of assumptions about people you don't know.
So move on already. I am the owner of this forum and officially APPROVE of this "joke" - may it continue on indefinitely or, until the person in question can man up and do what is right.
Okay, thanks for clearing it all up
Difference of opinion is one thing, but telling everyone they need to stop what they are doing because its wrong blah blah blah in a situation you know nothing about and have no knowledge of the history of the subject is not an opinion...its being a prick. If you would have stuck up for the guy because of x,y,z then you would be having a difference of opinion. You would be wrong, but at least you wouldnt sound like a pompous turd!
if thats your definition of being a prick then guilty as charged
no one here said that they are entitled to anything :idontknow: and I dont recall anyone saying he ruined it for anyone :thinking: Pastor(the only person on WAL that has the right to preach to anyone
) said people like you are ruining america...and I tend to agree :yup:
People like me huh? I would have never known. Everyone should be held accountable anything they do. I think this person only has to give answers to the organizers and sponsors.
I didnt know that you were part of the selection commitee and could make this kind of guarantees
The problem is that you think anyone gives a shit about what you (someone no one has ever seen or heard from before this thread) think or believe. :daydream:
Well i would certainly hope that what what 13JKUR did doesn't make the playing field unequal
No, that's not what I'm saying. I agree nobody should expect tires or anything else.
What bothers me is that it makes society less nice, less trustful, and less giving when we have to worry about getting scammed.
you are right. from my short life i have learned that all you can do is give someone the chance to earn your trust, and in the mean time i will treat them with respect.
Wrong again here. It takes so much time, energy and resources to put on a customer event like JKX. In no way do attendees cover all the costs and in a purely financial sense, it probably is not a positive proposition either. But the owners probably do continue to host the event for a whole list of other reasons which greatly benefit the jeep community.
When even one person abuses their efforts, I'm sure it really does call into question the entire justification for the program. And that does effect the jeep community. We run into similar issues when our company hosts events and half the time we walk alway wondering why we even tried and it is a terrible feeling.
It is what is wrong with this country, no one takes it personally anymore unless it is their skin being taken.
You missed the point, yet again...no one expects anything. Shit most of us never plan to/anticipate taking this trip. We are all pissed he used someone many of us know and stole from them.
Ok, i understand this. :notbeingsarcasticemoticon:
...Making it clear that this i understand.