Mine is going on tonight. Or at least starting it tonight. Axle is out and on the bench. Prep work done.
wow..had to get the hip waders and big shovel before getting to the end of the posts...lots of aggression..
I've often wondered why, when someone is successful in achieving something that counters popular opinion, lines on in the sand get drawn and aggression ensues.
I appreciate when someone has succeeded and describes how much work and thought went into it to make it a success. Majik you think more like I do, just because there is probably a high rate of failure doesn't mean everyone will fail and it's a learning process to try different things to mitigate failure, also taking into consideration the cost of failure. You have skills and access to tools many of us wish we had.
All I see Majik doing is stating what he did to keep himself in check to minimize bending, no where did I get the idea that he was promoting anyone could do it with success every time. Even the professionals have a different way of doing things as it seems no one has come up with a 100% success rate proof way to accomplish the end goal. Seems the common warning when welding on axle housings is watch your heat, go slow, alternate and figure out a way to check your work as you go. I for one appreciate the attention to detail provided and the amount of thought.
I'm sure Eddie has had his share of high-end parts fail, I say Eddie because he wheels hard, has the opportunity to see more components in action and has used a wider range of options most of us never will
Stuff fails.
As for 'pat on the back' why not, we congratulate those who get their new rides, achieve a trail or install the simple things, so why not when they succeed in something that's not the norm.
All this to say - just because there are failures, doesn't mean no one should try....and no need to attack those who do try. It's their money, risk and ultimately their decision.
They are merely posting on here to share with others.
Pig, your axle got warped even though it was installed by a professional, even professionals have bad days, that doesn't mean someone with skills has no business attempting a task where they choose to accept the risks. Nowhere in any of the posts did I get the impression I could achieve this on my own even with the tools have or have access to. I think people are aware of their capabilities and how much risk they are willing to take. I get it, you tried, it failed and you're pissed.
All I see Majik doing is stating what he did to keep himself in check to minimize bending, no where did I get the idea that he was promoting anyone could do it with success every time. Even the professionals have a different way of doing things as it seems no one has come up with a 100% success rate proof way to accomplish the end goal. Seems the common warning when welding on axle housings is watch your heat, go slow, alternate and figure out a way to check your work as you go. I for one appreciate the attention to detail provided and the amount of thought.
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If you are referring to anything I might have said to majik, I think it should be noted that he has since sent me a PM to apologize for not making his comments more clear and specifically pointed out that they WERE NOT intended toward me. He also understood that my response to him was based on this misunderstanding.
To be clear, Majik DOES have sleeves installed. That's all I was trying to point out. To the average Joe who might want to give this a try, I think it's important for them to know as much as it will make a difference. To suggest that it wouldn't is a mistake in my opinion.
Indeed, it does. But, that's not what we're talking about here. We're talking about installing a new part to help prevent the bending of an axle. What I've been trying to share is the fact that doing so CAN, as in, it is possible to BEND an axle during installation. I would think that there are people that might want to know of this possibility. But hey, that's just me.
So do it. Nobody's stopping you. Or, are you one of those politically correct types that think everyone should feel obligated to pat others on the back just to make everyone feel good about themselves? As far as success goes, I will remind you yet again that Majik had sleeves installed. While he was successful in getting his truss installed with minimal effect, I think it is important to note that sleeves will have made a difference. I still take issue at the fact that he discounted it's relevance as it may convey to the average Joe that they will have the same success without them. And who knows, maybe they will but, facts and accurate information are tools that I think everyone can benefit from especially if they plan on taking on a task like this.
You're right, just because there are failures doesn't mean people shouldn't do whatever it is they want. Of course, in spite of what you choose to believe, posting up about failures or possible problems doesn't equal attacks on those who do try it. In the end, it is their money and their risk and ultimately their decision.
Newsflash, and so are guys like me. I'm just posting on here to share with others. This is after all, a FORUM. You know, a place where people discuss things and in my perfect world, a place where everyone DOESN'T agree with each other all of the time.
If you haven't done so yet, this would be a good time to upgrade your ball joints if they haven't gone bad yet. I had my bud weld lower control arm skids and gussets with the old ball joints on pressed the new synergy ones in and called it a day. I actually had this truss sitting in my garage and ended up selling it lol. Too many horror stories, plus all the professionals that I asked to weld my truss on weren't going to install it like the picture Eddie posted. I didn't want to risk it on my 2013 jkr. Oh if you are keeping the stock ball joints without removing them be careful not to damage them, I think if you YouTube evo gussets you will find a good video of Mel installing a set. Well I'm not sure if I was any help, have a kick ass day :beer:I picked some up for the d44. Plan to remove the the axle for best access to clean up and weld. I personally wont be doing the welding, although I have done alot myself. I just dont have the equipment, so a friend of mine will be doing it for me.
Has anyone else done these and have any helpful advice. Other than the obvious welding no no's.
For anyone that is unaware, this is what I bought. Well, just the truss and gussets, not the trackbar mount.
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