Anyone self quarantined? AKA - the 2020 SH!T SHOW

[OverlanderJK]

I’m not following your math...you say 137k died from Rona, and 61k died from the flu during the last flu season...so hw did half as many died from rona than the flu?

90% had underlying issues. They were going to die anyway. 10 percent of rona deaths are from rona.


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[wayoflife]

What I don’t understand is why we continue to have a debate about wearing masks and equating it to personal freedom . Is this really what is so important to all here ? Are we really the only country in the world that makes this political and debates the efficacy of masks ?

Is wearing one really that bad while you’re in public while this pandemic continues ? Breathing CO2 is toxic and will hurt you ? It’s my right to not wear one ? Sure stay home then and stop spreading the virus to others . Conflating personal freedom with slight inconvenience (seatbelts) .

I get wanting to reopen businesses and govt mandates to close are crushing our economy but not wearing masks just exacerbates the virus and makes all of that worse . This isn’t some hoax to make orange man look bad .. numbers are bad across both red and blue states .

Bolsonaro caught the virus . So did Herman Cain . Trump is wearing a mask. What are we talking about here ??

You're back again? :naw:

Yes, this is about freedom. It is really what's so important to people like me and it saddens me that people like you would choose to forego yours or would demand to take it away from others and all in the name of a "slight inconvenience". Funny how you were nowhere to be found when everyone was rioting and looting over the past few weeks and not wearing masks or social distancing. :naw:

 

[danford.lau]

You're back again? :naw:

Yes, this is about freedom. It is really what's so important to people like me and it saddens me that people like you would choose to forego yours or would demand to take it away from others and all in the name of a "slight inconvenience". Funny how you were nowhere to be found when everyone was rioting and looting over the past few weeks and not wearing masks or social distancing. :naw:

Been here all along . This isn’t full time job for most of us ... have to earn a living still .

Never agreed with the protests breaking social distancing . Think they are also spreading corona.

Freedom to not wear masks and then complaining about lockdowns killing businesses ... talk about shooting yourself in the foot .


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[OverlanderJK]

Some calc about how 90% who died from it were old and had underlying conditions anyway and would have died on their own . Not true

What I don’t understand is why we continue to have a debate about wearing masks and equating it to personal freedom . Is this really what is so important to all here ? Are we really the only country in the world that makes this political and debates the efficacy of masks ?

Is wearing one really that bad while you’re in public while this pandemic continues ? Breathing CO2 is toxic and will hurt you ? It’s my right to not wear one ? Sure stay home then and stop spreading the virus to others . Conflating personal freedom with slight inconvenience (seatbelts) .

I get wanting to reopen businesses and govt mandates to close are crushing our economy but not wearing masks just exacerbates the virus and makes all of that worse . This isn’t some hoax to make orange man look bad .. numbers are bad across both red and blue states .

Bolsonaro caught the virus . So did Herman Cain . Trump is wearing a mask. What are we talking about here ??


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I never said old. I said underlying conditions.


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[TrailHunter]

....Freedom to not wear masks and then complaining about lockdowns killing businesses ... talk about shooting yourself in the foot .


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Seems like the liberal politicians are the ones shooting feet... I mean if you think the mask helps... wear it.... or stay home... That's the choice of the individual... Politicians need to Stop forcing this shit on everyone. From what I see around me.... the majority of people don't give a shit anymore.

 

[wayoflife]

Been here all along . This isn’t full time job for most of us ... have to earn a living still .

Never agreed with the protests breaking social distancing . Think they are also spreading corona.

LOL - of course you have been. Glad you were able to find some time in your precious busy life to chime in now with your self-righteous insight. Glad to hear you still have a job and are able to earn a living though. That's more than some I know can say.

Freedom to not wear masks and then complaining about lockdowns killing businesses ... talk about shooting yourself in the foot .

I live in Nevada, a state that still allows smoking in casinos, restaurants, bowling alleys, etc. It's been scientifically proven that smoking causes cancer, heart disease and even second hand smoke will KILL. I don't smoke and personally hate the smell of cigarette smoke but I LOVE the fact that Nevada still allows private businesses to run their business however they see fit. This, as opposed to taking away their freedom and forcing them to just shut up and obey. If I don't like how smokey a casino or restaurant is, I get to choose not to do business with them.

Early on, businesses like Costco implemented their own mask rule in order to shop at their warehouses. I TOTALLY SUPPORTED their decision as that was their right to do. Of course, I got to choose whether or not to comply or to shop somewhere else. I realize this is beyond your comprehension but that's how FREEDOM works.

 

[danford.lau]

LOL - of course you have been. Glad you were able to find some time in your precious busy life to chime in now with your self-righteous insight. Glad to hear you still have a job and are able to earn a living though. That's more than some I know can say.



I live in Nevada, a state that still allows smoking in casinos, restaurants, bowling alleys, etc. It's been scientifically proven that smoking causes cancer, heart disease and even second hand smoke will KILL. I don't smoke and personally hate the smell of cigarette smoke but I LOVE the fact that Nevada still allows private businesses to run their business however they see fit. This, as opposed to taking away their freedom and forcing them to just shut up and obey. If I don't like how smokey a casino or restaurant is, I get to choose not to do business with them.

Early on, businesses like Costco implemented their own mask rule in order to shop at their warehouses. I TOTALLY SUPPORTED their decision as that was their right to do. Of course, I got to choose whether or not to comply or to shop somewhere else. I realize this is beyond your comprehension but that's how FREEDOM works.

Individual decisions affect policy decisions. Deaths increasing causes lockdowns . Can’t just blame it all on liberal over stepping . Sorry you can’t connect those dots .

I try to chime in once in a while so it’s not just brute arguing with your self righteous insights .


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[wayoflife]

Seems like the liberal politicians are the ones shooting feet... I mean if you think the mask helps... wear it.... or stay home... That's the choice of the individual... Politicians need to Stop forcing this shit on everyone. From what I see around me.... the majority of people don't give a shit anymore.

I'm up in South Lake Tahoe a lot lately and pretty much nobody wears a mask. I just saw in the local paper that El Dorado County is now gonna try and enforce the mask order and why you might ask? Because 75 fuckin snitches have been complaining about it. As you just said, if you think the mask helps... wear it.... or stay home. Don't be a fuckin Karen.

 

[benatc1]

I had explain this to my wife last night, in most cases the mandates of masks, especially the ones that follow with fines, isn't necessarily about the mask itself, it's about the gov't over extending power they do not, or should not have over people, kind of a where does it stop type of thing. While people will continue to argue that it's just a mask, do it for your fellow citizen, ect; if we have to follow this Mandate, what's next? Guns? Or any of the hundred hot button topics? Masks may seem trivial but there is a larger picture in mind. If people want to wear a mask for safety concerns of them self or others, that's great, but the govt is starting down a slippery slope. Granted there are plenty of people who just don't want to wear a mask and that's their right too

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[wayoflife]

Individual decisions affect policy decisions.

LOL - how poetic. I think I saw that one on reddit.

Deaths increasing causes lockdowns . Can’t just blame it all on liberal over stepping . Sorry you can’t connect those dots .

Since all this shit started, there have only been 6 people who've died in my neck of the woods. There have only been 215 total cases and 146 of them have already recovered. Sorry, I guess not all of us can be as enlightened as you.

I try to chime in once in a while so it’s not just brute arguing with your self righteous insights .

LOL - never realize that freedom and a passion for it was somehow self-righteous. Guess you learn something everyday in this new woke world. :crazyeyes:

 

[TrailHunter]

If mask mandates are ended... businesses will re-open and life will get back to normal. But this won't help the Left in their attempt to blame this crap on our President. Protests, Riots, Looting, Covid....They gotta Fuck the Economy to paint themselves as the Hero...It's all politics. The Sheep are buying right into it.

 

[Elroy231]

I'm up in South Lake Tahoe a lot lately and pretty much nobody wears a mask. I just saw in the local paper that El Dorado County is now gonna try and enforce the mask order and why you might ask? Because 75 fuckin snitches have been complaining about it. As you just said, if you think the mask helps... wear it.... or stay home. Don't be a fuckin Karen.

Funny you should mention Karen.
Me and the family went to the Drive in last night. They're not allowing every spot full. Every other spot is in use. We flowed this. As soon as we opened our doors the people next to us were whining about social distancing. We didnt even get within 12 feet of them. They went up to complain. The bitch didnt get the support she was looking for so came back and packed up her kids to leave. Her husband said " really karen"?

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[TrailHunter]

LOL - never realize that freedom and a passion for it was somehow self-righteous. Guess you learn something everyday in this new woke world. :crazyeyes:

Lol... you didn't get the memo? It's racist too.... just turn on the News, they'll explain it.... :crazyeyes:

 

[Sharkey]

95% of the population would have to wear masks to save something like 24,000 lives nationwide from now to October. Doesn’t that necessarily show that masks are not very effective?


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[TrailHunter]

95% of the population would have to wear masks to save something like 24,000 lives nationwide from now to October. Doesn’t that necessarily show that masks are not very effective?


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If we really want to save lives... This Country needs more Earplugs... not Masks.

 

[wayoflife]

Funny you should mention Karen.
Me and the family went to the Drive in last night. They're not allowing every spot full. Every other spot is in use. We flowed this. As soon as we opened our doors the people next to us were whining about social distancing. We didnt even get within 12 feet of them. They went up to complain. The bitch didnt get the support she was looking for so came back and packed up her kids to leave. Her husband said " really karen"?

LOL - too funny!

Lol... you didn't get the memo? It's racist too.... just turn on the News, they'll explain it.... :crazyeyes:

Yeah, I try really hard not to "watch" the news. My slanty eyes are more accustomed to reading it.


Over the 4th of July weekend, we went to a couple of remote bars in Nevada. Out of respect to them, we called ahead and asked if we would need to wear masks to come in. Their reply was, "um, mask? I suppose you can wear a mask if it makes you feel better."

There's a reason why Cindy and I left Kalifornia as quickly as we could and moved out here.

 

[wayoflife]

Since this shit show started, there have only been 2 cases of china virus in Storey County. Both recovered and there have been no new cases since. Cindy and I were just up in Virginia City (in Storey County) yesterday to have a drink and to enjoy what normal life is like. Can you pick out the person visiting from California LOL

 

[pop2tu]

If we really want to save lives... This Country needs more Earplugs... not Masks.

And Blinders!


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[Kuboske]

This is a great discussion. I agree with everything Eddie has said about this. So many want to claim to be victims of something in this country. If a person has health issues, as listed previously, they should take self-preservation steps, on their own. Stay home, wear a mask, social distance,...whatever.
I did not cause them to get fat, or smoke, or get high blood pressure, so dont ask me to give up my freedom to protect them. I have tried to social distance from democrats for my entire life. And that has always been because they and their worldview MAKES ME SICK!

 

[Brute]

Not exactly. The government made it a law with a penalty of a fine if you chose not to wear one. The choice is still one you are free to make and really, failure to wear a seat belt would only harm you. Same is true of helmet laws only, there are still plenty of states that don't require them. If anything, the speed limit might have been a better example to use being that driving too fast could potentially hurt or kill others. But of course, you would never drive faster than the speed limit.

You are right in one respect...not all states consider not wearing a seat belt a primary enforcement law, where you could get pulled over just for not wearing one...some states to this day enforce it as a secondary enforcement, where you can get fined in addition to the main reason (speeding, brake light out etc) you were pulled over. But it is on the books in all 50 states as a fineable offense...and one could argue that ALL laws are a choice...you can choose not to abide by any law. The reason I chose the seat belt law was a reference to many here that believe wearing a mask is an infringement on their rights...I used to feel the exact same way about the seat belt law.

I'll never forget the last time I rode in a car with my step dad in Honolulu many years ago...he was pulled over for not wearing a seat belt. After the officer gave him his ticket, he crumpled it up and threw it at his feet. He told him "I'm 83 years old and I will die before I pay this...I don't believe in wearing a seat belt. The officer's jaw dropped, then he wrote him a ticket for littering, which was five times the amount of not wearing a seat belt in Hawaii. He didn't pay that one either...he died the following year of a heart attack.