Yet Another Reason Why I'm Glad that I No Longer Live in California

wayoflife

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I just read this in the news and was reminded of just how glad I am to no longer live in the State of California...

Court OKs High School Ban on American Flag T-Shirts
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In a case that pits individual rights against kids' safety, the California Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals ruled on Thursday that it was appropriate for school officials to ban students at San Jose area high school from wearing American flag T-shirts on Cinco De Mayo. The May 5th holiday, popular in the United States but largely unrecognized in Mexico, commemorates the 1862 battle of Puebla and celebrates Mexican culture, heritage, and pride.

The ruling stems from a controversial incident in 2010, when five students were told by administrators at Live Oak High School (which has a history of racial tension and gang violence) to either turn their American flag T-shirts inside out or go home. In a unanimous decision, the court cited two instances where students had been threatened with violence for wearing the flag. In 2009, some students of Mexican descent told an assistant principal they would "f**k up" other kids who were chanting "USA" around a flag they had hung from a tree on the school campus. The next year, students wearing the flag tees were warned by text messages and phone calls that gang members would come to the school and beat them up. Because only shirts with the American flag were targeted, school officials didn't ban shirts bearing images of other country's flags, including the Mexican flag. In response to the ban, a group of parents sued the district for violating of the teens' First Amendment rights. The school district has not responded to Yahoo Shine's request for comment.

The court pointed out that under previous law, it is indeed legal to restrict high school student's free speech because of safety concerns. The Live Oak dress code also states that, "The school has the right to request that any student dressing inappropriately for school will change into other clothes, be sent home to change, and/or be subject to disciplinary action." Writing for the panel of three judges, 9th Circuit Judge M. Margaret McKeown stated, "Our role is not to second-guess the decision to have a Cinco de Mayo celebration or the precautions put in place to avoid violence, [the events] made it reasonable for school officials to proceed as though the threat of a potentially violent disturbance was real." However, some parents are still threatening to take the case all the way to the Supreme Court. "This is the United States of America," Kendall Jones, whose son was students banned from wearing a shirt depicting the American flag told the San Jose Mercury News. "The idea that it's offensive to wear patriotic clothing … regardless of what day it is, is unconscionable to me."

School clothing bans have become common across the country in recent years as administrators have cracked down on everything from leggings to NRA t-shirts to UGGS. Last year, a Michigan school told middle-schoolers who were wearing T-shirts memorialzing a friend who died from leukemia to change tops or cover up the friend's name printed on the shirt (administrators later apologized and reversed their decision). Not surprisingly, the American flag T-shirt case is particularly controversial and has strong supporters on both sides of the issue.

The court ruling appears to be on firm ground because of legal precedent, but blogging about the case, Eugene Volokh, a professor of law at UCLA and specialist in free speech, says it's about far more than T-shirts and that there are some serious issues at stake. "This is a classic 'heckler's veto' — thugs threatening to attack the speaker, and government officials suppressing the speech to prevent such violence," he wrote. "The school taught its students a simple lesson: If you dislike speech and want it suppressed, then you can get what you want by threatening violence against the speakers." However, after the decision, school district superintendent Steve Betando said he felt "relieved." From his point of view in the trenches of a challenged school, the court gave administrators the power to avert potential harm to their students.

http://shine.yahoo.com/parenting/court-okays-high-school-ban-american-flag-t-172900062.html
 

13gecko

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You gotta be kidding me..... I proudly rock an American Flag on my JK. This makes my blood boil, and not just because I'm in the Military. This just isn't right in my opinion.
 

JK's JK

Banned
Bull. Let's just give up all our right's so they can tell us what to wear, eat, buy, see and anything else!!! :furious3::motz2:
 

SDG

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Perhaps they should be allowed to wear their shirts and the national gaurd should be on standby and beat the shit out of anyone harassing them.
 

JK's JK

Banned
Perhaps they should be allowed to wear their shirts and the national gaurd should be on standby and beat the shit out of anyone harassing them.

To be scared or ashamed of wearing the American Flag....F^^k that. There should be more police active in schools or Teachers that volunteer to hold a weapon on them or in a secure safe.
 

RUBINOT

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Hope they appeal that screwed up decision to the U S Supreme Courts.

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Bullwinckle

Hooked
Plain bullshit!! I'm sick of all this racial/nationality shit it's about Time for people to realize were all US citizens here no matter what skin color and background if they can't realize that then get the fuck out!! And for our government to take their side is plain wrong... 😔


Ray ⛺
 

Oscar35

New member
I'm Mexican-American. Not posting to get into a debate. Just wanted to add my two cents. I don't agree with the ban of the shirts. This is America! However I think the reason behind it is to protect those who were wearing the shirts. It's a crazy world.

TUFTRLZ
 

Robar

The Enforcer
I'm Mexican-American. Not posting to get into a debate. Just wanted to add my two cents. I don't agree with the ban of the shirts. This is America! However I think the reason behind it is to protect those who were wearing the shirts. It's a crazy world.

TUFTRLZ
So are you an American or do you have dual citizenship? This is America and no American should be under threat by wearing an American flag on their clothing. This is America, so why do we have to celebrate a Mexican holiday?
 

OverlanderJK

Resident Smartass
So are you an American or do you have dual citizenship? This is America and no American should be under threat by wearing an American flag on their clothing. This is America, so why do we have to celebrate a Mexican holiday?

This!

'Merica!
 

wayoflife

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This is America and no American should be under threat by wearing an American flag on their clothing.

I couldn't agree more!! I just can't understand any of it. This is America and of all places, you would think that Americans should be ALLOWED to wear an American flag on our own soil 24/7, 365 days a year and REGARDLESS of what other country is celebrating their holiday.

This is America, so why do we have to celebrate a Mexican holiday?

Honestly, I think it's great that people from other cultures want to embrace their heritage and culture and celebrate holidays from their homeland. But, to threaten Americans just because they chose to wear an American flag is preposterous. That a court would get involved in the manner that they have and allow thugs to impose their will through the threat of violence is simply ridiculous.
 

4x4Jesus

Caught the Bug
Just plain stupid!! If they are that worried about it then they should ban all flags not just the American flag.
 

wayoflife

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Staff member
Honestly, this thing has gotten me so mad that I think I'm going to find a shirt with an American flag on it and wear it on Cinco de Mayo.
 

13gecko

New member
Honestly, this thing has gotten me so mad that I think I'm going to find a shirt with an American flag on it and wear it on Cinco de Mayo.

You should make tshirts. America, it's more than a country it's a wayalife. Or something like that. I'd buy it for sure. Or wayalife shirt with American flag on it.
 
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