Anyone self quarantined? AKA - the 2020 SH!T SHOW

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jesse3638

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Oh I feel its getting pretty close to some big time fuck off from the people. A local brewery to me said that if he can't get the PPP loan then he is going to reopen. I can see many small businesses beginning to do this to avoid going under

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Ddays

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Oh I feel its getting pretty close to some big time fuck off from the people. A local brewery to me said that if he can't get the PPP loan then he is going to reopen. I can see many small businesses beginning to do this to avoid going under

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The shit will really start flying if they try to have these folks arrested that try to open back up to save their livelihood.
 

wjtstudios

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The shit will really start flying if they try to have these folks arrested that try to open back up to save their livelihood.

It’s odd when an act of civil disobedience is going back to work. But I do seeing that being the way society will push back against the government.


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jesse3638

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It’s odd when an act of civil disobedience is going back to work. But I do seeing that being the way society will push back against the government.


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Yeah its like yelling at your kids for not coming down for dinner when they are up in their room doing homework...haha.

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It’s odd when an act of civil disobedience is going back to work. But I do seeing that being the way society will push back against the government.


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I think we are going to find out in about a week and half when the Governor’s deadline is up.
 

TrailHunter

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Anyone self quarantined?

Home Depot’s near me also have the same cattle squeeze step up at entrance. I refuse to shop there until they unfuck themselves.

Its been like that here for a couple weeks... and masks required.. makes it real hard to run and get something quick... At White Cap Construction supply we have to call it in, then they bring it to your truck... Our lumber yard has been the easiest to get materials & hardware. Its all very frustrating, but I’m thankful we can still get what we need... I’m trying to be patient.
 

Saharaunlmtd

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I agree on almost all points. The more we learn on this the more we understand that it has been around a little longer than people thought. The mortality rate is garbage as it was on bad data since there weren’t accurate and readily available tests for it. The only people tested were ones showing the worst of the symptoms and then a high percentage those high symptomatic people died. In actuality there are almost asymptomatic carriers out there spreading it without knowing and haven’t gotten tested. I’m not claiming that what is going on is an overreaction, but the data was bad. I more concerned about all the half measures. Do it or don’t.

Despite the rhetoric, this power grab isn’t ideological. The “righties”aren’t coming for the “lefties” civil liberties nor the “lefties” for the “righties”. This is about fear over some extremely basic human needs health and safety vs food and shelter (the economic concerns). It is extremely hard to decide between the two as they’re extremely personal. If you have an immuno compromised person readily in your life, the health and safety price is probably more important as it poses the most pressing existential threat, if not the food and shelter could be. But since they’ve gotten us so used to kicking down we are missing how much all the grifters are taking from us. The small business loans couldn’t illustrate it any better. It wasn’t the small businesses that knew this was coming and how to petition 40+ banks to get it. Those big businesses aren’t righties or lefties, they’re opportunists. You can swap Biden or Trump’s faces on almost all the memes and they apply. Try it

The point of flattening the curve was dead on. Get people working on a cure, let the “herd” build up some immunity, and keep as many beds and respirators open to be able to treat it. In absence of a cure the hose should gradually get turned back on. Especially before school starts back up.




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Very well said.


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jesse3638

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A follow-up to last week's story about the skate park that the city filled in with sand... Locals said fuck off and made a dirt bike track. [emoji23][emoji1787]

https://www.barstoolsports.com/blog...went-ahead-and-made-it-into-a-dirt-bike-track



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jdofmemi

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Regardless of what you personally think about all of this, I hope you are "woke" enough to understand that you don't "beat" a virus through social distancing. There is only one thing that beats a virus: an absence of hosts. You only create an absence of hosts through one, or a combination, of three ways: (1) a vaccine; (2) all potential hosts develop natural immunity; and/or (3) all remaining potential hosts get sick and die. That being true, are you really espousing that the current craziness should continue? For how long? Until we get a vaccine in 14 months? What happens when there are rebound spikes, do we lockdown the country again? We are already precariously close to the edge of a cliff, at the bottom of which is no more America; just 300+ million wards of the state.

"Flatten the curve!" That rallying cry was never intended as a way to beat the disease. It was sold to the American people as a way to give our healthcare workers sufficient time to ramp up perceived necessary supplies; it was sold to the American people as a way to lessen the number of people who died at once...not to significantly lessen the number of people who ultimately died. For the most part, most of us complied with what was asked of us despite the economic, emotional, and physical toll that we knew we would take. For much of the country, it has now been four weeks of this insanity (give or take a week.)

We are seeing reports from Italy that 99% or more of their deaths were of people who had a serious underlying health condition. About 25% of their deaths were of people with at least three serious underlying health conditions. In Sweden, where a much more measured approached was taken, there is no question that the number of deaths is higher than neighboring Denmark. However, the deaths are nowhere near as high as prophesized by the fear mongers. With each passing day there is more and more evidence that the infection rate is far greater than originally believed, and that the disease existed in America far longer than originally believed. If true, those two facts substantially reduce the perceived mortality rate.

Hospitals across the country are reporting record lows in the number of emergency patients related to heart attacks, appendicitis, strokes, and other similar emergencies that require immediate treatment to prevent death or debilitation. It's not that people are NOT suffering these maladies. It IS that people have been made so scared of the hospital that they won't go get treatment. Many are, without a doubt, dying because of that fear. If they die in New York though, they will be counted as a Covid death. I wonder how many cancers are going undiagnosed right now because most Ob/Gyn's are closed except for emergencies? Will those be Covid deaths too?

Eddie has posted up about how few cases there have been in most of the counties in Nevada. He is right. In my county of approximately 471,519 people, there have been 18 deaths...18! As of noon yesterday, there were just 44 people in the entire county hospitalized related to Covid. There are so few patients in my county that some of our doctors are leaving to go help in New Jersey. I commend them. They are going to where the need is, and as medical professionals they recognize where the need isn't.

Despite all of that, many people are calling for continued, nationwide shutdowns. Those same people are now also demanding that all supermarkets should be shut down and forced to operate by delivery or curbside only. In my own state of Nevada, I am sad to say that fear and absurdity are still ruling the day even in the absence of empirical support of risk.

The autocrats...from Trump, to the Governors, to the multitude of federal, state and local administrative bodies...are swelling up off of the collective fear like ticks feeding off of the blood out of a horse. Nevada OSHA is using a drone to monitor constructions sites from a distance (that, by the way, is illegal for a number of reasons.) Just last week, a $15,000 fine was given to a local contractor because two workers, both wearing respirators, worked together to move several hundred pounds of MDF panels across a three foot wide scaffolding. They did not maintain the "required" 6 foot separation. Multiple contractors were fined that day, and fines have been increasing ever since. According to Nevada OSHA, our Governor's social distancing proclamation somehow negates longstanding federal and state OSHA requirements about safe team lifting. Nevada OSHA and our Governor are wrong, and I am hopeful that I get the opportunity to prove it in a court of law.

The type of incrementalism that is going on destroys freedom. I truly hope that people wake up before it is too late.

Too bad that more people can't understand what is going on here.

You hit the nail on the head and the sheep sitting in their pens waiting for the slaughter need to wake up.

About the OSHA drones, someone needs to bring their shotgun and make it open season. That is complete BS
 

Elroy231

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To be fair to him, he has taken a lot of flack for not shutting down quicker, or more thoroughly. He was sort of reluctant to take away our liberty.


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Well if he allows fishing he will be one of the first to give something back. In michigan our Govenor is discussing some soft reopening of places. 1 customer at a time sort of thing.
Definatley in times like this the elected officials wont have all the answers or make everyone happy. Some difficult decisions.

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